drop Posted June 8, 2006 Report Posted June 8, 2006 Pardon if this has been addressed before, but is there any difference between the Asian and the Swiss 111Hs outside of the available (non-functional) swan neck? Anything more attractive regarding mod options with the swiss v. asian versions? Just trying to determine if the extra $100 is worth it... that said, don't know if the movement even looks close to gen in either case. Cheers!
that_watch_guy Posted June 8, 2006 Report Posted June 8, 2006 I own a few versions of the 111. The Swiss one is a little heavier, has a nicer crystal and obviously the regulator. I'm a big fan of the Swiss version! Other than that, they appear to use most of the same parts.
Pugwash Posted June 8, 2006 Report Posted June 8, 2006 Pardon if this has been addressed before, but is there any difference between the Asian and the Swiss 111Hs outside of the available (non-functional) swan neck? At the end of this month, I'd be surprised if the H movements still had non-functioning swan's necks.
infinitime Posted June 8, 2006 Report Posted June 8, 2006 At the end of this month, I'd be surprised if the H movements still had non-functioning swan's necks. why do you say that? is there something coming down the pike?
Pugwash Posted June 8, 2006 Report Posted June 8, 2006 why do you say that? is there something coming down the pike? As far as I know, yes.
eLiNK Posted June 8, 2006 Report Posted June 8, 2006 As far as I know, yes. Actually, Puretime has once given to understand we could expect 111H with functioning swan neck regulator at the end of may.
Pugwash Posted June 8, 2006 Report Posted June 8, 2006 Actually, Puretime has once given to understand we could expect 111H with functioning swan neck regulator at the end of may. The G movements were out end of May, and the H movements are right behind them, from what I hear.
fitmic Posted June 8, 2006 Report Posted June 8, 2006 The G movements were out end of May, and the H movements are right behind them, from what I hear. I think Sichuan has the H-movement.
cosmosblau Posted June 8, 2006 Report Posted June 8, 2006 What about the Lume. Any difference? To me, this is the dead giveaway this is a rep.
robertk Posted June 8, 2006 Report Posted June 8, 2006 What about the Lume. Any difference? To me, this is the dead giveaway this is a rep. Of course! I'm always showing mine off to a room full of paneristi's in the dark.
nicewatch Posted June 8, 2006 Report Posted June 8, 2006 Great! Just when I was about to pull the trigger on the 111H with Swan from EL, I read this! Well, I'm glad Pugwash mentioned it. Looks like I should wait a few more months!
cosmosblau Posted June 9, 2006 Report Posted June 9, 2006 Of course! I'm always showing mine off to a room full of paneristi's in the dark. That's a helpful comment.
ehtolcad Posted June 9, 2006 Report Posted June 9, 2006 take a joke pal and to answer your question, no it doesn't appear that the lume is significantly better on either of the two.
Kenneth Posted June 9, 2006 Report Posted June 9, 2006 I have the asian and it doesn't work well. It stops working after about two hrs. I've read the same from others as well. I will probably just replace the movement with a swiss.
nicknoh Posted June 10, 2006 Report Posted June 10, 2006 I was able to compare my CN 111h with a friend's Swiss, both latest versions from EL. They are quite similar, although the CN version has a darker dial, crooked hands, and lume only on the hands. From the back, the CN movement had rougher finishing and wasn't as shiny and clean as the Swiss.
sjedwardz Posted June 10, 2006 Report Posted June 10, 2006 I had an Asian but had to send it back as it gained 5 minutes in 20!! That was regardless of how I twiddled with the regulator. I've ordered a swiss one instead to replace it, hopefully this will be better!
cwai02 Posted June 10, 2006 Report Posted June 10, 2006 Wait for the H series with working swan neck. It is coming out soon.
drop Posted June 10, 2006 Author Report Posted June 10, 2006 Wait for the H series with working swan neck. It is coming out soon. Thanks for the heads-up, I'll do that.
eLiNK Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 (edited) Wait for the H series with working swan neck. It is coming out soon. Any more news, rumors ...? I've got itchy hands. Have already arranged to do some modding. Edited June 21, 2006 by eLiNK
drop Posted July 2, 2006 Author Report Posted July 2, 2006 (edited) Any more news, rumors ...? I've got itchy hands. Have already arranged to do some modding. Received the following message from Joshua a couple days ago, confirmed new version? "Pam 111H does have a working swan neck..." PAM 111H Edited July 3, 2006 by drop
lancelot Posted July 2, 2006 Report Posted July 2, 2006 Hey drop, tell us about the lum how is it in the dark ?
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