cpt390 Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 (edited) ?????????????????????????????????????? I thought that would get your attention............. Why is it that with all the advances in the replica market like 1-1 Panerais and other watches that we can't get a 1-1 Rolex Replica case with correct crown and crown guards , dial???? Edited June 10, 2006 by cpt390 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Sure they can do it... But they make a lot more money selling 50 different versions and revisions of the same watch over and over with some previous flaws fixed, and new flaws introduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancelot Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 I thought that would get your attention Unfortunately, it made me instantly assume you were an under-educated kid who wants attention. I'm not saying you are, obviously. Why no 1:1 Rolex? Simply because there isn't a single 1:1 rep available of any watch due to the inherent difficulty of copying, even with CNCs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollipop Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Why no 1:1 Rolex? Simply because there isn't a single 1:1 rep available of any watch due to the inherent difficulty of copying, even with CNCs. Well at least the rep makers can try, can't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Well at least the rep makers can try, can't they? I agree. In fact I applaud it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Why no 1:1 Rolex? Simply because there isn't a single 1:1 rep available of any watch due to the inherent difficulty of copying, even with CNCs. That can't be the sole reason. Look at the "mistakes:" Many remain the same throughout the entire production, no many how many versions come out. What, rep makers haven't figured out by version 87 of the seamaster that the HE valves are too low? Or that the A's are wrong on most panerais? Or that the word Rolex does not begin with the letter P? Some flaws are surely just dumb mistakes--but the more blatant and persistent flaws have to be intentional. The real question is why? My personal theory is that a 95% rep provides the chinese government with semi-plausable deniability when the trade rep over at the embassy comes over to [censored]--"Replicas? What replicas? The word "Replicate" means to make a copy These ain't no copies..." Something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermanx Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Some flaws are surely just dumb mistakes--but the more blatant and persistent flaws have to be intentional. The real question is why? My personal theory is that a 95% rep provides the chinese government with semi-plausable deniability when the trade rep over at the embassy comes over to [censored]--"Replicas? What replicas? The word "Replicate" means to make a copy These ain't no copies..." Something like that. No they just make 2 watches slap a generic dial on one and a pan on the other, then slide the pan out the back door. Not my pic, borrowed off of ebay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Why replicas are not exact copies: An opinion. The Chinese counterfeiters make reps that will sell, then another factory goes one better. The distributors go with the better quality and the first factory then has to up its game. If there is no competition, they sell the reps regardless of accuracy and never improve. It's neither us nor the factories that demand changes. It's the middlemen and the competition. They don't deliberately keep replicas sub-par to force us to upgrade every 3 months. If it weren't for competition, they'd never make them better as the market buys what's available regardless of accuracy. The incentive for a factory to make 100% reps just for us perfection hounds is so small it's not even worth considering. The crown-guard/cannon-pinion crowd are so insignificant to their real market that we cannot ever expect our demands to make that much of a difference, apart from in specialists like Davidsen who hand build their reps or Precious Time and Josh who offer pre-modded reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 Why replicas are not exact copies: An opinion. The Chinese counterfeiters make reps that will sell, then another factory goes one better. The distributors go with the better quality and the first factory then has to up its game. If there is no competition, they sell the reps regardless of accuracy and never improve. It's neither us nor the factories that demand changes. It's the middlemen and the competition. They don't deliberately keep replicas sub-par to force us to upgrade every 3 months. If it weren't for competition, they'd never make them better as the market buys what's available regardless of accuracy. The incentive for a factory to make 100% reps just for us perfection hounds is so small it's not even worth considering. The crown-guard/cannon-pinion crowd are so insignificant to their real market that we cannot ever expect our demands to make that much of a difference, apart from in specialists like Davidsen who hand build their reps or Precious Time and Josh who offer pre-modded reps. I like this explanation better than mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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