lanikai Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 After a year and a half of waiting for the proper date wheel.. my 089 has made it's way back from Nova Scotia !!! the wait was worth every single day !!.. Thank you R&J for making this timepiece that I could no longer look at because of the DW... and lello for all the stress and trouble you go through to supply this community with the "grail".. you do not know how much it is appreciated !! If I had a choice of genuine Pams right now it would be the 089 .. but this is for me ... "killer".. i had to do without heavy lights so that I could show the oxidation in the TI... least I forget.. thank you kruzer for the sacrifice of the TI genuine crown !!! I was elated to see that my oxidation matched the genuine crowns colour ... believe me it took weeks to get the colour right on the case and CG... Mods-Servicing: Ziggy DW: Lello OEM TI Crown: kruzer Almost identical colour on the cg and case as on the OEM TI crown..(got lucky on my part) Lellos DW... the IMO mystical anthricite dial this is a little over 1 second exposure !!! RG's lume.. "of course" At Home on my wrist... the only thing left... since this is a sanwich crystal AR cannot be done .. but there is an option... ihope.. it will take a sacrifice from another rep.. I'm keeping my fingers crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhitesox Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Very nice my friend, We're very lucky in this forum that we have so many valuable members. By far the best watch forum on the net!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboGUATE Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 It seems that you always come up with excellent pieces like this one. Absolutly the anthracite dial is something worth having. Mind me asking Lani, from whom did you get it? Is it Angus last version without the missing marker? Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Good to hear your PAM089 is finally back, Lani. And it looks awesome! Yesterday I succeeded in repairing the movement of mine, so guess what's on my wrist today? Did you put the standard 7750 Lello DW in it? The magnification looks so much bigger now..... Can't wait for my Lello DW to arrive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 WOW R.! It is awesome! Gourgeous! I would tell it's a gen! About AR: I was in belief that single-side (low temperature) AR coating can be performed on sandwich crystals, can't it? I had two crystals with cyclops AR coated that way and all went good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 WOW R.! It is awesome! Gourgeous! I would tell it's a gen! For the finishing touch this watch can use the updated DSN hands. I think he sells them for about $45,- already SuperLumed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elprimerozen Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 GEN GEN.... ...Bravo....Thanks for the pics..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Looks great Lani. One of my favorites as well and mine is waiting to make the trip North for similar treatment. Tell me, how did you perform the Oxidizing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuDro Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 WOW R.! It is awesome! Gourgeous! I would tell it's a gen! About AR: I was in belief that single-side (low temperature) AR coating can be performed on sandwich crystals, can't it? I had two crystals with cyclops AR coated that way and all went good. Can you post some pics of your end results? I've been trying to find a solution to this as well...Thanks in advance! Lani...AWESOME watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Can you post some pics of your end results? I've been trying to find a solution to this as well...Thanks in advance! Currently, they are both disassembled from watches (argh, 90% of my PAMs are actually disassembled for projects ). Would pics of the crystals (+ cyclops) alone be ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce79 Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 That's a beauty of a watch...nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted May 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 First,... Thank you ALL for the kind words.. but the acolades must go to Ziggy... and if not for Lello's DW nothing would of happened.. and kruzer for the leg work last year securing all the OEM crowns at a really great buying price !!! @ssurfer.. yes, M. please share with us who did the AR .... that would make this piece near perfect.. dluddy Posted Today, 04:16 AM Looks great Lani. One of my favorites as well and mine is waiting to make the trip North for similar treatment. Tell me, how did you perform the Oxidizing? I believe it was last summer I posted a "how to" .. a little different from the other post on the oxiclean method... the pics lighten the colour a lot. it is actually darker in person.. that is why the genuine crown fits right in.. otherwise it would definately be two tone.. (no offense TT) you can do it without disassembling the watch or with just the case.. what I have found is that the purity of the TI varies from case to case.. and maker to maker.. my 036 came out very dark .. the genuine is very matte.. that is the "look" you are shooting for.. it would take a while for me to explain now.. would you like to get the oxidation done before you send it to Rob?? let me know DL scoobs1971 Posted Yesterday, 08:40 PM Did you put the standard 7750 Lello DW in it? The magnification looks so much bigger now..... Can't wait for my Lello DW to arrive this is the 7750 DW @3 ... I have the 7750 DW @4 .. for the 196 Daylight ... but now the search for AR .. wonder if the crystal from the Submersible regatta would fit in here...???.. if so it is going to be cannabalized for the good of the whole.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breukelen Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 (edited) very nice example... what a beautiful unique watch however, i was under the impression that ti crowns sourced by kruzer were meant for the handwind pams - did you make some adjustments to the stem or crown to fit your auto? kruzer - if you have any more of these ti crowns, please let me know. i'm definitely down for one! Edited May 8, 2008 by breukelen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 I believe it was last summer I posted a "how to" .. a little different from the other post on the oxiclean method... the pics lighten the colour a lot. it is actually darker in person.. that is why the genuine crown fits right in.. otherwise it would definately be two tone.. (no offense TT) you can do it without disassembling the watch or with just the case.. what I have found is that the purity of the TI varies from case to case.. and maker to maker.. my 036 came out very dark .. the genuine is very matte.. that is the "look" you are shooting for.. it would take a while for me to explain now.. would you like to get the oxidation done before you send it to Rob?? let me know DL Did it your way today and it came out well. Also did my 172 and 036....Interesting how they are all somewhat different in how they react to the oxidation. I used some Polywatch to remove the blueing since it is a mild abrasive. Thanks for the inspiration to finally do this @breukelen The Ti genuine crown will actually work with automatics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bklm1234 Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 question: does the date window on the dial have to be enlarged for the lello datewheel? IMHO, dsn hands are too skinny, no better than these stock hands. -bk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted May 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Did it your way today and it came out well. Also did my 172 and 036....Interesting how they are all somewhat different in how they react to the oxidation. I used some Polywatch to remove the blueing since it is a mild abrasive. Thanks for the inspiration to finally do this @breukelen The Ti genuine crown will actually work with automatics. DL Great !! glad it worked for you .. if you really want to go matte.. don't take the case out of the solution just run cold water until all of the water is fresh .. re: you don't expose the TI to pure oxygen therefore less "blue" tint to take away.. and you don't take as much of the oxidation that's on the metal off... and yes the properties of the TI are all different from case to case.. left in the solution overnight is the best I find... the TI crown I used from kruzer's group buy is for an automatic model.. not a palp .... I only got the Auto ones from the 2 group buy's Aloha~Cheers Lani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted May 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 question: does the date window on the dial have to be enlarged for the lello datewheel? IMHO, dsn hands are too skinny, no better than these stock hands. -bk No.. the window remains the sme.. it's the cyclops that enlarges the font.. my fav numeral is the 8 don't know about the DSN hands .. I've been out of the loupe with his parts.. but I'll take a look now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Chieftang made the single AR on my crystals. Single AR is not a stunner like double AR, but it is accurate to the gen and it also has a very pleasant side effect: it almost deletes any reflections from the date & cyclops, so making the date even more readable. I had it on a crystal with a watchmen cyclops, and a second crystal with a chieftang cyclops (both non-AR coated cyclopses), and the improvement was absolutely noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Note also that Chief has a new batch of AR's cyclops in process. I also have Chief's Single AR on my 188 and it is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espentan Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Aaand all of a sudden my unmodded 089 faded a little Hmm, might have to do something now that I've seen what it can be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capice Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 looks Awesome Lani, congrats m8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 IMHO, dsn hands are too skinny, no better than these stock hands. DSN has just released a new GMT handsset (bigger minute hand, shorter arrow on GMT) with SL for his PAM088/089 models. On the pics it looks very convincing: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=71635 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Note also that Chief has a new batch of AR's cyclops in process. I seem to remember I heard that Chief had to give up on getting these new cyclopses AR coated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuDro Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Currently, they are both disassembled from watches (argh, 90% of my PAMs are actually disassembled for projects ). Would pics of the crystals (+ cyclops) alone be ok? I'll wait for the assembled pieces...Will give me a better idea of what I can expect...Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce79 Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Note also that Chief has a new batch of AR's cyclops in process. I also have Chief's Single AR on my 188 and it is great. I too have Chiefs single ar on my 188 and it's subtle but does a remarkable job at reflecting light. I knew something was up with the crystal when I received the watch but then the previous owner confirmed that indeed, it did have the single ar. I actually would prefer the single ar on my pam reps and hope that Chief gets another run going. He said there just wasn't enough interest...but perhaps there should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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