Asian 2824-2/2836 vs Swiss version, need a maximum of input.

[magagne]

Maybe I should post in Movement Q&A , but I wanted the most attention as possible, and income. Can be move after (discretion of the Admin).

With all the controversy about dealer who give you the Asian 2824-2 clone instead of the Swiss ETA 2824-2 when we purshase a Swiss model, I'm looking for a review of the reliability of the Asian 2824-2 or the Asian 2836 to make a good future choice for my next rep. I looked in the "Movement reviews" section, but no article or review about the Asian 2824-2 or the Asian 2836 (but we can found stuff on the Asian 7750, made by The Zigmeister)...maybe I didn't look at the right place.

Well, somebody can just help us by answering these major concern:

Q1: Asian 2824-2/2836, come dry or oiled? (We all know the Asian 7750 come dry, but is it the same case about the Asian 2824-2/2836)

Q2: Do it need an initial full services like the Asian 7750 to prevent problem? or it is less prone to fail due to the less complexity if we compare it to the Chrono Asian 7750?

Q3: Asian 2824-2/2836, has more jerky sec hand than a Swiss one?

Q4: Asian 2836, the MOD version GMT already had bad reputation, but is it the case for a non MOD Asian 2836 mvt? like the one in a Seadweller for exemple?

Thank you for your cooperation.

[magagne]

Bump !

Nobody know the answer of one of these question?

[bwhitesox]

Now this is more an educated guess than fact but It should get the ball rolling for you.

1- The movement would come in a non serviced state so would more than probably be dry,If you are putting this movement into a keeper watch then get this serviced.

2 - Probably not but see point one.

3 - If the movement runs at the same BPM as the swiss then it will have the same sweep motion.

4 - Non mod version should be way more reliable as it is a standard configuration.

[magagne]

I found something to answer the Q1

"Asian movements

...Most need nothing, and overall are new and clean and well oiled."

[highoeyazmuhudee]

only thing that would effect sweep vs one over the other is if its regulated or not and if there is a beat error present.

both in theory should be able to be tuned to the same smoothness.

you get one answer per 4months : P

J/K

regards

[Guest Carl]

Here is the 2836-2 I recommend:

It's Asian for sure!

Carl :-)

[highoeyazmuhudee]

i was looking at an ETA powered montblanc today and i found the sweep as choppy as my DG4813 asian (28.8k)movement. even a few datejusts i've been looking at i've noticed a stutter... so i WOULDNT worry about it too much. if it really bothers you try to retro fit a Zodiac SST 36k movement to your case OR an Accutron 214...how cool would that be!

[Logan]

You should assume all movements in reps are non-oiled, unless you have a good reason to believe otherwise. (a good reason would be an inspection by an experienced watchmaker) Even those that are oiled are often not done well. Any watch you intend to keep long term should be serviced.

The movement isn't nearly as complex or fragile as the 7750 but can still have major problems if not oiled.

Both movements are 28,800 beat, so the second hand should technically be similar in both cases. A very jerky second hand on any eta 28xx swiss or chinese usually means a dirty movement.

The CHS (correct hand stack) version of both movements is terrible, stay well away. Its seems they all break. The IHS (incorrect hand stack) is fairly good, but often not well oiled. Correctly oiled with appropriate oils its not a terrible movement, although you'd be well advise to leave the GMT hand adjustment alone regardless.