old skool Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Any advice/suggestions on how to pull that off? I also probably need it on a bracelet. Is it even possible to assemble a sterile 40mm Panerai homage watch? If so, who do I talk to and what is the cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Good luck. As the 40mm Luminors and 42mm Rads are discontinued, you'll have a tough time sourcing anything from a dealer. Your best bet will probably be the 2nd hand market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OiRogers Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 At least one of the cartel dealers still has 42mm Rads and 40mm (auto) Luminors listed on his site... but that might not mean much, I've found that the dealer isn't the fastest in removing items that are no longer available. Sourcing a bracelet may be a bit of a challenge as well... I know they exist, but I'd guess them to be even rarer than the 40mm Luminors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanf Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 At least one of the cartel dealers still has 42mm Rads and 40mm (auto) Luminors listed on his site... but that might not mean much, I've found that the dealer isn't the fastest in removing items that are no longer available. Sourcing a bracelet may be a bit of a challenge as well... I know they exist, but I'd guess them to be even rarer than the 40mm Luminors. If you're talking about either Josh or Andrew, then those listings are stale. I'm not aware of any dealer that has access to any 40mm Luminors or 42mm Radiomirs today. If you can find one, a PAM 050 or 051 (40mm Lumimor with SS bracelet) would be the best for your GF. Those were really regarded as one of the very first super-reps. But they don't come on the second hand market frequently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 I had 2 braclets and a 168 whent to a member here. So its out their i em sure many has them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Careful, though, if you do find one. The 49/51 (white dial) suffers from an hour hand that is FAR too short. The 48/50 is scary accurate, however. A relume, better datewheel and better cyclops make this a 99%+ watch, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old skool Posted July 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Thanks for the info. I'll have to see what I can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old skool Posted July 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 (edited) Just curious, as I don't know anything about these watches... I did a search for 40mm on iOffer and found a ton of watches for sale from $85 to $280. Descriptions from Japanese 7750 to asian 2836 to Swiss case, etc. How do I determine what is crap and what is decent? Is there any source for aftermarket parts for these watches? If case the crown and crown guard suck, or the crystal gets scratched, etc. What about sterile case backs? Edited July 31, 2008 by old skool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofSpeed Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Buying my wife a 1st run 050 was the smartest thing I have ever done... she went from not understanding my passion for different Panerai models (she felt they all look the same) and different straps to her appreciation of both... She laments that there are no really good chrono 40mm and she has an appt for her 050 to go up north for a re-lume... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 You'll be lucky to find a watch, let alone spare parts. I've never seen a sterile caseback for the 40mm Luminors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 I'll have to see what I can do. Inquiring does not harm. These watches are declared as 40mm: http://www.ioffer.com/i/PANERAI-Power-Reserve-40mm--30931986 http://www.ioffer.com/i/Panerai-Luminor-Po...k-dial-59781831 http://www.ioffer.com/i/Pam-49-PAM49-PANER...J-40mm-63774676 http://www.ioffer.com/i/Panerai-luminor-ma...c-40mm-25554812 http://www.ioffer.com/i/PANERAI-Pam-168-Re...d-40mm-27586716 http://www.ioffer.com/i/Panerai-Pam-060-Ch...p-40mm-31265031 http://www.ioffer.com/i/PANERAI-LIMINOR-MA...-PAM49-29947411 http://www.ioffer.com/i/PANERAI-LUMINOR-PO...PAM125-60216821 http://www.ioffer.com/i/LADIES-PANERAI-LUM...A-40MM-55733006 http://www.ioffer.com/i/Panerai-Luminor-Po...-dial--52833226 http://www.ioffer.com/i/PANERAI-Pam-060-Ch...p-40mm-27586606 http://www.ioffer.com/i/PANERAI-LUMINOR-PO...PAM125-30023246 http://www.ioffer.com/i/Panerai-Daylight-s...o-find-33880961 http://www.ioffer.com/i/Panerai-Luminor-Ma...-SIZE--33880336 http://www.ioffer.com/i/Panerai-LUMINOR-GM...-SIZE--33880551 http://www.ioffer.com/i/PANERAI-Luminor-Marina-40mm-63371016 http://www.ioffer.com/i/PANERAI-Pam-060-Ch...d-40mm-27586676 http://www.ioffer.com/i/LADIES-PANERAI-LUM...-CLASP-55731321 http://www.ioffer.com/i/LADIES-PANERAI-DAY...-CLASP-54800526 http://www.ioffer.com/i/Panerai-luminor-ma...c-40mm-59784281 http://www.ioffer.com/i/PANERAI-Pam-168-Re...t-40mm-31265586 http://www.ioffer.com/i/PANERAI-Pam-060-Ch...t-40mm-31265361 http://www.ioffer.com/i/Pam-49-PAM49-PANER...J-40mm-64917946 http://www.ioffer.com/i/Panerai-Luminor-Po...-dial--64300116 http://www.ioffer.com/i/panerai-contempora...k-dial-64510586 http://www.ioffer.com/i/panerai-luminor-st...e-40mm-64515141 http://www.ioffer.com/i/OFFICINE-PNR-PAM04...YMENT--64928906 http://www.ioffer.com/i/Panerai-Luminor-Po...-40-mm-28065561 http://www.idolreplicas.com/panerai-lumino...tch--18955.html http://www.idolreplicas.com/panerai-lumino...tch--18952.html http://www.idolreplicas.com/panerai-lumino...tch--18949.html http://www.idolreplicas.com/panerai-lumino...tch--11373.html http://www.idolreplicas.com/panerai-lumino...tch--18954.html http://www.idolreplicas.com/panerai-lumino...tch--18951.html http://www.idolreplicas.com/panerai-lumino...tch--18948.html http://www.idolreplicas.com/panerai-lumino...tch--18953.html http://www.idolreplicas.com/panerai-lumino...tch--18950.html http://www.idolreplicas.com/panerai-lumino...tch--18757.html http://www.idolreplicas.com/panerai-lumino...tch--17471.html This is not declared as 40mm, but it looks as it is: http://www.timesshop.net/product.asp?id=599 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceberg1459 Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 build it yourself, let it be special Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old skool Posted July 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 I am tempted to get one with a good case and send it to a friend in HK to have the case reproduced...that is if they are as rare as people claim... But it seems there are many available on iOffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Yes, the really really good 40mm reps like the 1st generation 048-049-050-051 are sold out now, and since a long time ago. Those who foresaw those were super PAM reps at the level of, e.g., PAM 027 and 028, got lucky. 2nd generations got sold out recently, even if they were not as good as 1st generation (main differences: the DW, and possibly the dial font). So I suppose that 90% of those offers are either fakes with 1st and 2nd generation pictures, or decent reps just not at the level of the old ones. Asking for real pics and details would not harm. If you select one, I can give you an opinion about it. On the other hand, power reserve 40mm were not produced a few years ago. Surely all them are powered with the ST 2530 movement, what alone makes them good watches, even if inaccurate as reps. As your GF was heading towards a homage watch, accuracy should be of no concern though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old skool Posted July 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 What can you tell me about the power reserve movement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Seagull ST-2530, aka TY-2530. 35 jewels, date @3, power reserve indicator @5, small seconds @9, quick date change pusher @8. 13 1/2 lignes (30.40mm) diameter x 7.40mm thickness. The ubiquitary movement found in all Chinese watches (including PAM reps) with PR @5. Precise, solid and reliable. Rumors are that it gets repped though (yes: reps of a Chinese movement), and the reps may be or may be not at the level of the genuine. Additional info here: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=67741 http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=74638 http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=53546 http://www.tjseagull.com/Product.asp?BigCl...T25%CF%B5%C1%D0 http://www.tractionink.com/watch_wiki/inde...Tianjin_Seagull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc savage Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Not quite what you were looking for, but I didn't know these existed--a 32mm PAM: http://www.timeshops.net/Panerai_Luminor_G...J_1790-5045.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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