rmcsherry Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 I know this is not a fancy movement, but if anyone could help me to find out what it is, I'd be very grateful! It has seconds at 9, no other subdials. Sorry for the blurred image, I need a new camera! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcsherry Posted July 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 I've just realised that I can see through to the face, so I'm guessing it's some kind of Asian 'tourbillon-effect' movement. God knows why it's in a watch with a solid back and standard face, but there we go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfreeman420 Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 (edited) From the back it looks like an ETA 2892, but that movement doesn't have seconds at 9. The see through part is just the escapement not a tourbillon. Maybe a chinese ETA copy. Can you post a pic of the front? Edited July 10, 2006 by jfreeman420 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Seagull ST-25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finepics Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 It is an asian movt. The "tourbillon" is simply the balance wheel bridge and is a normal design. The rotor is certainly styled on the ETA 2893. There is nothing special about this movt at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcsherry Posted July 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 I don't want to risk breaking anything by removing the face, I'm still relatively new to this! I've had a look at a few dealers pics, and it looks like the same movement as used in non-working Tourbillon reps. Here's an example. Thanks for the reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcsherry Posted July 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 I missed the last two whilst I was slowy typing! I know there's nothing special about it, I'm just curious - the watch itself is very innacurate, and I'm seeing if I could chop and change parts. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finepics Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 I missed the last two whilst I was slowy typing! I know there's nothing special about it, I'm just curious - the watch itself is very innacurate, and I'm seeing if I could chop and change parts. Thanks. It is the same but undecorated. What sort of chopping were you going to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcsherry Posted July 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 (edited) I've not had a chance to think about it yet - the watch arrived today (it was a v.cheap 44mm logo Panerai - with 5218-201A caseback) - I've never had a PVD watch before, so I'm not sure if it is PVD or not, the finish appears to be anodised, it is not at all matt. It's not worth throwing money at it; the second hand is too far right (not just slightly either!), the crown guard is knackered (bare steel showing through) and it is mineral glass. I bought it because it was literally dirt cheap, and I don't want to waste good money on a decent PVD panerai until I've decided if I really like them - consider it a test run (and I currently only have 47mm's)! If I am able to track down a replacement crown and guard, or find somewhere to coat mine for a small sum, I would happily wear it to knock around - I won't be wearing it around Panerai enthusiasts, so can get away with a cheap rep that doesn't matter if it gets a little scratched. The entire watch is hugely innaccurate, but as I said if I can sort out the crown guard for minimal cost then I'm happy! I've attached a pic so you can see what I mean about the crown guard - it was completely black, but it looks like it had been attacked with a marker, so I wiped it off (no chemicals used, confirms it probably was marker.) If anyone can tell if this is anodised or PVD'ed or other, and if it's possible to sort out the CG I'd be very grateful. Don't laugh; this is cheap and most people wouldn't have a clue what a Panerai is if it bit them in the [censored]! Thanks for the useful comments (and for confirming it is a Seagull movement.) Edited July 10, 2006 by rmcsherry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finepics Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Well it just so happens that I have a black CG here for exactly the same type of PAM in mint condition, make me an offer!!! You should really take a look at a real PVD coated case as the difference is staggering. The one you have is some kind of paint finish I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcsherry Posted July 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Well it just so happens that I have a black CG here for exactly the same type of PAM in mint condition, make me an offer!!! You should really take a look at a real PVD coated case as the difference is staggering. The one you have is some kind of paint finish I think. I have no idea of its value, so don't want to insult you with a silly offer. Considering the super-low price I paid for the watch (with strap), it's pointless spending much more than £10 on modifying it. Or can I tempt you with an additional genuine Franck Muller Master Banker dial?! Thanks for the offer, I understand that my offer may be too low, but it seems pointless spending a lot on this project as I'm sure you can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finepics Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 I have no idea of its value, so don't want to insult you with a silly offer. Considering the super-low price I paid for the watch (with strap), it's pointless spending much more than £10 on modifying it. Or can I tempt you with an additional genuine Franck Muller Master Banker dial?! Thanks for the offer, I understand that my offer may be too low, but it seems pointless spending a lot on this project as I'm sure you can see. Tell you what - cover my postage, unless you are in London (you could pick it up then it'll cost you a beer) and it's yours. Then when you get a decent rep you can send it to me for a proper PVD coating (if you do this you must get a polished SS case type). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcsherry Posted July 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Email sent. Many thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r11co Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 What Pug said. It's actually not the worst movement in the world by a fairly long stick. I've got one of these with a power reserve module in an 090 and it is the second most accurate auto watch I own... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivia Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 What Pug said. It's actually not the worst movement in the world by a fairly long stick. I've got one of these with a power reserve module in an 090 and it is the second most accurate auto watch I own... So do I in a 183. I agree. I have disassembled it and put it back together. As far as I an concerned it is the best CN movement out. Mine is very accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiowas Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 (edited) can u guys help me with this one. what type of movement is this? Edited July 17, 2006 by kaiowas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWR Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 it's a 6497 of some sort, the fact that it has no regulator is bizarre, perhaps an early chinese copy (pre pam bridges) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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