Anyone have an idea what kind of movement this is? Val72, Val23 or other?

[concepta]

Anyone have an idea what kind of movement this is? Val72, Val23 or other???

[addingwatch]

Looks like a val 22 to me.

Regards.

[freddy333]

Based on what I can see, it looks like a (bi-compax) Valjoux 23 (or 22, larger diameter version of 23). It would help if you can get a good, clear pic of either the pillar plate below the balance and/or a direct, full-frontal pic of the watch to see if the pushers are layed out asymmetrically (it could be a Landeron, if the pushers are symmetrical).

On 2nd look, it looks like a Valjoux GHT, which I do not know alot about. But that is what it looks like

[concepta]

Based on what I can see, it looks like a (bi-compax) Valjoux 23 (or 22, larger diameter version same of 23). It would help if you can get a good, clear pic of either the pillar plate below the balance and/or a direct, full-frontal pic of the watch to see if the pushers are layed out asymmetrically (it could be a Landeron, if the pushers are symmetrical).

On 2nd look, it looks like a Valjoux GHT, which I do not know alot about. But that is what it looks like

Here is a front pic of the watch that holds the movement.

I guess Val72 is out of the question

[lewis123]

Just see you posted this twice.

I think Valjoux 22.

Regards,

Lewis.

[freddy333]

Here is a front pic of the watch that holds the movement.

I guess Val72 is out of the question

The (tri-compax) V72 is just a (bi-compax) V22 with the addition of an hour totalizer (in addition to the V22's chrono seconds & minutes totalizer subdials, the V72 is fitted with a 3rd subdial, the hour totalizer, which counts hours). Since the watch has only 2 subdials, it cannot be a V72.

But I am pretty sure the movement is a Valjoux GHT, because of the shape of the bridge & size of the 2 gears highlighted inside the red circle (if you compare these to your movement, you will see they are the same (the bridge & top gear on the V22/V72 are different))

[lewis123]

The (tri-compax) V72 is just a (bi-compax) V22 with the addition of an hour totalizer (in addition to the V22's chrono seconds & minutes totalizer subdials, the V72 is fitted with a 3rd subdial, the hour totalizer, which counts hours). Since the watch has only 2 subdials, it cannot be a V72.

But I am pretty sure the movement is a Valjoux GHT, because of the shape of the bridge & size of the 2 gears highlighted inside the red circle (if you compare these to your movement, you will see they are the same (the bridge & top gear on the V22/V72 are different))

Hi Freddy,

Although both movements resemble each other, i still think it's a 22.

I could be wrong but the number of dents on the column wheel, the shape of the CS reset arm and the small bridge under the second wheel are different on both movements (seen from this side). (there's a lot more details that differ).

Stole a few pics here just to show (and compare to the pic in Concepta's post)

Valjoux GHT:

Valjoux 22:

And the pic in Concepta's post:

What do you think ? (nice to know that there is a lot of knowledge about vintage movements on this forum. Many gen forums don't even get to this level !)

Best regards,

Lewis.

Edited September 28, 2008 by lewis123

[freddy333]

Lewis, I am convinced - probably a V22.

[flex]

It is a valjoux 22.

for comparison, here is a pic of my (version 1) val 72 movement (have been working on it for the past few months).

[flex]

Sorry I see Valjoux GHT is mentioned. I must say I know very little of this movement. I cannot tell the differenec between the two.