cib0rgman Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Hi, This is for the Panerai Exoperts, I have devloped a taste for this wathes I am looking into buying one. so ineed the help of the exoert to tell which one to buy. I am looking for the simpliest one with no date. and of course with the lates imporvements money is not an issue of course i do not want to buy a gen one. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trustywatchguy Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Hi, This is for the Panerai Exoperts, I have devloped a taste for this wathes I am looking into buying one. so ineed the help of the exoert to tell which one to buy. I am looking for the simpliest one with no date. and of course with the lates imporvements money is not an issue of course i do not want to buy a gen one. Thanks My advice: Get the PAM111H Swiss Unitas Swan Neck... or maybe the PAM127 in Swiss Unitas 6497 swan neck. They are the old time favs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted July 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 My advice: Get the PAM111H Swiss Unitas Swan Neck... or maybe the PAM127 in Swiss Unitas 6497 swan neck. They are the old time favs.. Thanks for the advice, but does the gen one has a see thru caseback. Kind like better a solid caseback, that way i do not have to worry about the movement accuracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehtolcad Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 andrew's right, but if you want to go even simpler you could go for a radiomir base (210) or a luminor base (112). then if you wanted a variant of the luminor you could go with a titanium base (176) or with sub-seconds at 9 (177) or get really crazy and go for the vintage logo base (000). i'm also partial to the 005 logo as well. don't even get me started on davidsen's custom vintages either. (randy, eddy, etc. this is your cue to post pics of yours) if you want the 'best' chronograph my personal favorite is the tantalium (192) on bracelet, but you may be hard pressed to come by one of the good ones. many will argue the best chrono is the 1950 flyback (212) , but i dislike the asian 7750 (and the swiss 7750 is a bit pricey) so that's a no-go for me. honestly, you can't go wrong. buy a 187 and scare the living hell out of every other normal human being around you or go undercover and get a 40mm mini-me - either way you're fine. good luck on the search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted July 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 andrew's right, but if you want to go even simpler you could go for a radiomir base (210) or a luminor base (112). then if you wanted a variant of the luminor you could go with a titanium base (176) or with sub-seconds at 9 (177) or get really crazy and go for the vintage logo base (000). i'm also partial to the 005 logo as well. don't even get me started on davidsen's custom vintages either. (randy, eddy, etc. this is your cue to post pics of yours) if you want the 'best' chronograph my personal favorite is the tantalium (192) on bracelet, but you may be hard pressed to come by one of the good ones. many will argue the best chrono is the 1950 flyback (212) , but i dislike the asian 7750 (and the swiss 7750 is a bit pricey) so that's a no-go for me. honestly, you can't go wrong. buy a 187 and scare the living hell out of every other normal human being around you or go undercover and get a 40mm mini-me - either way you're fine. good luck on the search Now You really gave a lot of information, I do not even know what are you talking about, I guess I have to do a lot of reading. I want something that is not to fancy and that compare to the gen is not really price. I do not want to look like I am wearing a 10k watch and that I can not afford anyway. Thanks for advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted July 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 I was looking at andrew website and I foung this one http://www.trustytime.com/index.php?main_p...;products_id=46 can anybody comment about it?. Can this watch be waterproofed. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted July 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 I was looking at andrew website and I foung this one http://www.trustytime.com/index.php?main_p...;products_id=46 can anybody comment about it?. Can this watch be waterproofed. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cucumber_Jones Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 andrew's right, but if you want to go even simpler you could go for a radiomir base (210) or a luminor base (112). then if you wanted a variant of the luminor you could go with a titanium base (176) or with sub-seconds at 9 (177) or get really crazy and go for the vintage logo base (000). i'm also partial to the 005 logo as well. don't even get me started on davidsen's custom vintages either. (randy, eddy, etc. this is your cue to post pics of yours) if you want the 'best' chronograph my personal favorite is the tantalium (192) on bracelet, but you may be hard pressed to come by one of the good ones. many will argue the best chrono is the 1950 flyback (212) , but i dislike the asian 7750 (and the swiss 7750 is a bit pricey) so that's a no-go for me. honestly, you can't go wrong. buy a 187 and scare the living hell out of every other normal human being around you or go undercover and get a 40mm mini-me - either way you're fine. good luck on the search This is excelent advice - as was andrews. I think you need to do some research and learn about the watches as you have received the best advice I have ever seen for a questions like yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehtolcad Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 @ciborg i'll let others chime in about that watch, but it is on my list of panerai to get. you can either pm me or post here what is confusing and we'll do our best to straighten you out. the numbers inside of the (parentheses) are the model numbers for the watches. that way you can refer to the exact model that you like. and i'll make a small confession in that when i first started getting into panerai, i said to myself "how will i ever keep track of all of the different models, there are just too many and it is just too confusing!!!" then i read and studied the pics until i couldn't take it anymore. and then i did it again and again and again. you'll get the hang of it, just be patient with it. @c_j thanks for the kind words @ehtolcad don't you have better things to fill your brain with than panerai model numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cucumber_Jones Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 @etholcad - your advice was wise beyond your years. You show a wisdom that can only come from patience and perserverance! btw - 187 comming this way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehtolcad Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 you s.o.b.!!!!!! i knew it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cucumber_Jones Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Cib0rgman - when you learn about 187 you will cry just like daclothe crys as I type..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted July 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Cib0rgman - when you learn about 187 you will cry just like daclothe crys as I type..... Thank for the kind words, and I hope not to cry too much after I have learn all I need about panerai watches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cucumber_Jones Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Thank for the kind words, and I hope not to cry too much after I have learn all I need about panerai watches. No - my friend - they will be tears of joy. Once you know the pam code you will be brought to tears (of hoy) with a combination of 3 simple numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcrooz Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 I was looking at andrew website and I foung this one http://www.trustytime.com/index.php?main_p...;products_id=46 can anybody comment about it?. Can this watch be waterproofed. thanks That's a nice watch although I'm not sure how much you could pick up a gen for - if you can even pick up a gen of that... If you want something simple and that doesn't cost 10k for the gen why not get some thing like this I have one and I love it - although not exactly the same, and I have changed to a different strap (from Andrew/Trusty). Also, Andrew will waterproof and service watches for you at a very competitive rate if you wish to do so. This is mine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted July 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 (edited) After reading and browsing the Panerai Website, I have decided which watch I want. I a 210, with a black leather strap. Let me tell you it was not easy there is so many choices Now I am searching for the dealer with the best 210 available, is there a swan neck 210 ? any suggestions. Thanks Edited July 21, 2006 by cib0rgman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cucumber_Jones Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Wow - look at you speaking in paneri lingo - and this soon too! Yes you will want an ETA Movt with CDG engravings and a swan-neck regulator. You will want to throw away the strap that it comes with and get a better strap. You can swap the buckle from the rep strap to the new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted July 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Wow - look at you speaking in paneri lingo - and this soon too! Yes you will want an ETA Movt with CDG engravings and a swan-neck regulator. You will want to throw away the strap that it comes with and get a better strap. You can swap the buckle from the rep strap to the new one. now you got me confused what is CDG. So who has the best available version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highflyingclive Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 (edited) @ciborg "how will i ever keep track of all of the different models, there are just too many and it is just too confusing!!!" @ehtolcad don't you have better things to fill your brain with than panerai model numbers? Ha ha ha! Have you seen the 2006 Paneai Catalogue? There is a whole rake of new model numbers to commit to memory... Edited July 21, 2006 by Highflyingclive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage_here Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 After reading and browsing the Panerai Website, I have decided which watch I want. I a 210, with a black leather strap. Let me tell you it was not easy there is so many choices Now I am searching for the dealer with the best 210 available, is there a swan neck 210 ? any suggestions. Thanks You don't see that many people that start out with a Rad for their first PAM. Good for you! I think you'll like it better than that vintage piece. The fixed lugs on the vintage really limits the number of strap choices. But, you'll have plenty to choose from with the 210. Good luck with your purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cucumber_Jones Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 CDG - hmmm you need to do more research...... Cote de geneve ~ perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage_here Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 CDG - hmmm you need to do more research...... Cote de geneve ~ perhaps? Just to split hairs, it's Côtes de Genève. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cucumber_Jones Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 (edited) PS: "who has the best" questions are not answered usualy - this question usualy requires that you have shown you have done some work researching yourself first... Edited July 22, 2006 by Cucumber_Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted July 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 (edited) PS: "who has the best" questions are not answered usualy - this question usualy requires that you have shown you have done some work researching yourself first... That What I've doing the whole day, I been in several dealer sites, and I found the 210 swan neck movement, there is only on thing that bothers me is that all of the movement that I saw have the panerai letters in blue on the back of the watch. Besides that I think they are pretty good. I compare the movements with a picture from the panerai website that is the reason why I prefer solid case back watches. There is nothing to show. Edited July 22, 2006 by cib0rgman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cucumber_Jones Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Lots to learn grasshopper. Takes much more then a day. Read and then ask specific questions. However, not the "Who has the best" one. Also use the hell out of the search function. If you have a question that you think is stupid the use the PM function and PM someone who seems to know a lot about the watch you are looking for. Many people here will help you via PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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