Guest Sql_pl Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 So I decided to convert my 111F into something more accurate to gen. The watch goes The Zigmeister's way early next week. And here is my question. I have two options. I can get both A or B series casebacks from DSN. And I can ask The Zigmeister to either relume it with aged tritum looking lume and change L Swiss L to T Swiss T on a dial or just relume it with superluminova. What would be your choice? Patina like this: Or regular luminova look with closed caseback: (Pic borrowed from Khurram - hope you don't mind) Looking forward seeing your votes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitai Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 My vote goes to PAM1B but with T swiss T dial. I prefer the off white tritium aged lume to full white luminova. Here some gen pics and here's mine... Thanks to The Zigmeister for his fantastic work on my PAM1B. - Notice the difference in the lume colour tone of the hands and the markers? The Zigmeister latest aged lume colour is very well mixed and extremely close to the gen - Flushed CG pin ** Went for B series because the accuracy of the caseback engravements are closer to the gen article with the correct OP, BB and production number. A good "A" series caseback with the correct OP number is hard to find IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sql_pl Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Good advice. It would be wiser to have matching op and serial numbers as well. One more question - does the aged tritium looking lume still glow or not really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jitai Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 One more question - does the aged tritium looking lume still glow or not really? It will still glow but not as torch bright as superluminova. Somewhat brighter than standard lume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 I went the "A" route as I prefer the T look in my Historical handwinds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth2 Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 are the correct dials for a gen 001 bcd all same or some T and some L? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 B series was a transitional series for most PAMs. They were a mixture of tritium and Luminova dials... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Sql, you say you would like to turn your Pam1B into something closer to gen, not sure if you already know but that 2005-'06 PAM001B rep is one (if not THE one) of the best and closest 1:1 44mm Luminor reps aver produced. Also, the DSN A and B series closed casebacks while very good, they're not on par with the good old closed 001B rep caseback, neither in engraving fit/finish nor thickness and required height. If I were you I would leave it as is, really. I'd rather try to find parts and bits for another T-dial Pam, and have best of both worlds But that's me, and you might have some other ideas and prefer some other models. @ jitai, it's hard to beat that old-school DSN T-dial, good catch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sql_pl Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 The thing is my watch is not a 001B but a 111F. 2005 great case etc but display caseback. As it seems no dealers carry the 001b anymore I guess DSN is the only source for a caseback like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 (edited) The thing is my watch is not a 001B but a 111F. 2005 great case etc but display caseback. As it seems no dealers carry the 001b anymore I guess DSN is the only source for a caseback like this. Cool, see if you can source B1176/3000 001 B-series caseback. I know it's the well known rep serial, but is also one of the best ones made. 111F from 2005 is also great rep, I'd put it in the same category as 001B. I'm guessing yours comes with A/R-ed xtal? If it does, one more reason against transferring this 111 into 001 Tritium Whichever way you decide mate - good luck! babola Edited December 8, 2008 by babola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Once you do the B series for the reasons stated above, it's really a matter of personal taste. Especially w/ the B1176 caseback either T or L is accurate. The Zigmeister's tririum is spot on, and so would SL. Personally, I'd go with the lume just so you don't have to source another dial. W/ a T48 crown and a CG pin fix, you'd be indistinguishable from gen aside from the A's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Personally... I like Pre-A ...with correct OP ref, BB and milesimation all correlating: Just wish it was 30ATM instead of 300m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sql_pl Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 OK. Thanks for your input guys! I decided it will be a B series 001 then with T SWISS T dial with nice The Zigmeister patina Will get DSN caseback for now but will look for correct 1176 one. Will post pics when it gets back from the Spa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubus Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 why convert, mr. M ? get yourself brand new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sql_pl Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Pubus, actually the main reason for the conversion is that I can't stand the inorrect looking movement that can be seen with display back. It makes me feel not 100% comfortable with the piece and as a result it just sits in my box. Another reason is that you can't get such good case anymore. And that patina looks so nice in the above pics..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgodeep Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 I personally prefer the tritium patina ....but why just make 1 PAM when you can make loads!!! Best of luck FGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 (edited) ...actually the main reason for the conversion is that I can't stand the inorrect looking movement that can be seen with display back. It makes me feel not 100% comfortable with the piece and as a result it just sits in my box... I'd be more unhappy with the blue tint on A/R xtal on a T-dial watch. The case you have is great I agree, but would fit 001B-L much better IMO. Just slap a solid caseback onto it and your problem is gone :-) cheers, babola P.S. this is assuming you actually have A/R on xtal, if not than all is great ;-) Edited December 13, 2008 by babola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubus Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Another reason is that you can't get such good case anymore. I get it and I second that K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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