Tsubaki Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I've narrowed it down to a PAM104, maybe the ultimate. I read up on all the vendors and just eliminated DSN off my list. Right now I'm looking at Eurotimez, Joshua or Puretime. None of these guys seems to drop ship and they say they do their own in-house QC. I'm not looking for the best price so much as the best after sale service IF something were to go wrong. Also, I'm new to the rep world so I'm not comfortable doing my own modding yet. I really want my PAM to be superlumed (I think they look AMAZING), do some vendors do mod work before shipping? Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMan24 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Also, I'm new to the rep world so I'm not comfortable doing my own modding yet. I really want my PAM to be superlumed (I think they look AMAZING), do some vendors do mod work before shipping? Thanks guys I know puretime does modding for an extra charge...cannon pin fix and superlume, $60 additional seems to be the typical mods. I just bought a Radiomir Black Seal today.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yipee Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 I know puretime does modding for an extra charge...cannon pin fix and superlume, $60 additional seems to be the typical mods. I just bought a Radiomir Black Seal today.... how do you peruse the sellers offerings (I am new here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMan24 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 how do you peruse the sellers offerings (I am new here) Go to puretimewatch.com site and pick the watch you want... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7777 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 I've narrowed it down to a PAM104, maybe the ultimate. I read up on all the vendors and just eliminated DSN off my list. Right now I'm looking at Eurotimez, Joshua or Puretime. None of these guys seems to drop ship and they say they do their own in-house QC. I'm not looking for the best price so much as the best after sale service IF something were to go wrong. Also, I'm new to the rep world so I'm not comfortable doing my own modding yet. I really want my PAM to be superlumed (I think they look AMAZING), do some vendors do mod work before shipping? Thanks guys Just out of curiosity, why did you eliminate Davidsen from your list? From what I can tell he does the very finest PAM reps!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsubaki Posted March 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) Just out of curiosity, why did you eliminate Davidsen from your list? From what I can tell he does the very finest PAM reps!!! I used the search function and found some not-so-flattering threads about quality and after service. Not sure I'll take the risk. Honestly, I don't see many PAMs that are outstanding replicas, they all seem to need a lot of work here and there. I've been eying a PAM104 Ultimate from Joshua but I'm afraid I might be disappointed. At this point i don't feel too comfortable modding or to spending the extra money having relume, font, cannon pin,cyclops etc etc fixed. I might just get a Breitling Avenger Seawolf or a Superocean Steelfish instead. From what I've read so far, they seem to be better reps. Edited March 2, 2009 by Tsubaki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7777 Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 I used the search function and found some not-so-flattering threads about quality and after service. Not sure I'll take the risk. Honestly, I don't see many PAMs that are outstanding replicas, they all seem to need a lot of work here and there. I've been eying a PAM104 Ultimate from Joshua but I'm afraid I might be disappointed. At this point i don't feel too comfortable modding or to spending the extra money having relume, font, cannon pin,cyclops etc etc fixed. I might just get a Breitling Avenger Seawolf or a Superocean Steelfish instead. From what I've read so far, they seem to be better reps. Yes, I noticed too that there's a shortlist of reps that are outstanding quality. Yes Ive heard some odd things abt DSN, but his work appears to be the very best. Another that was referred to me is Rocketeer. From what I can tell, when David starts getting MIA his quality isnt as great but when he is reachable he apparently pays great attention to his work. And even if he misses the mark he stands by his work. Thats priceless!!! Many of the collectors seems to offer "ultimate" versions of their watches which is nice. From there guys like The Zigmeister can take care of those nagging issues. I personally love PAMs and I think its worth digging deeper to get a good one! I bought my first rep, a PAM005 from Andrew and while I see now what the flaws are its still a very very nice watch! Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siesta181 Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 I'd wait for a modded PAM 111 to come along in the sales section. You'll save a lot in shipping cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsubaki Posted March 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Thanks for all the replies, I still REALLY REALLY want a PAM. I don't know why but they're beautiful to me. They just seem to have a sense of purpose. Maybe I'll get one, one of these days, when the reps are better and I feel comfortable modding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Apologies in advance but there is something about the OP and various responses that has really rattled my cage for some reason and I feel inclined to chip in. Thanks for all the replies, I still REALLY REALLY want a PAM. I don't know why but they're beautiful to me. They just seem to have a sense of purpose. Maybe I'll get one, one of these days, when the reps are better and I feel comfortable modding. Tsubaki Dude you're just Tyre kicking here really, seriously , people have offered you sound advice and you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwee Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Really have to agree with ST4 on this. From your posts, I would recommend you not get a Pam. Really. If you are lookng for a good one, a lot of modding will be required. As for dealers, well no offence to anyone of them but they all dropship except maybe Eurotimez but he charges higher for his QC. I have bought from DSN before and the transactions and watches are all good. At thje end of the day, everyone has their own favourite dealer. Finally, I think the 104 is no longer available. May be wrong. Apologies in advance but there is something about the OP and various responses that has really rattled my cage for some reason and I feel inclined to chip in. Tsubaki Dude you're just Tyre kicking here really, seriously , people have offered you sound advice and you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsubaki Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Whoa.... and I mean WHOA! You guys are intense! I need to have a relationship with a PAM? Did I read that right? Okay, I'm new to the world of replica watches and although I'm pretty ignorant on a lot of stuff I'm ALWAYS willing to learn. But the moment I have a "relationship" with a replica watch and I need to put people down I think I'll quit the hobby. I've been searching, comparing and PMing people everyday for a week. Most have been quite helpful, some not so much. Perhaps a lot of the knowledge is hard-won, maybe it cost money but that never gives anyone the right to denigrate another. We were all noobs once... For the most part I think RWI is a wonderful place, I will stick around, I will learn and I will eventually acquire the PAM I've always wanted. In the mean time I'm getting a Breitling! Thanks to all of those who have been helpful and offered words of encouragement. I really appreciate the experienced veterans, those who share their knowledge openly and do not guard it jealously as some do. 104 is available from DSN,Eurotimez and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entreprenuer Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 whats the price market for the Pam 104's? I love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Just put your toe in the water, get the "ultimate 104", "it's not that cold , the water's just fine!" and start learning to swim upstream......... You'll find you will never be satisfied with just one rep and will curse us even more for actually giving you advice to get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsubaki Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 There is a VAST wealth of knowledge here, FANTASTIC! I never even thought there was another world within replica watches, the depth is amazing. To me, high level reps are masterful works of art and they're functional to boot. Will I get just one? Nope.... I already have a preorder in for a WM9s SeaDweller, I'll probably have a Steelfish next month. Sort of like my others hobbies (nitro RC cars,Italian shotguns), you can never have just one. A PAM? Maybe when I'm emotionally available and ready for a relationship. ha! I was quoted about 280USD for a PAM104 by DSN superlumed and all. Others sell the Ultimate PAM104 for about 430USD. Contact any of the collectors listed, they all seem to have them in stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwee Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 There is a VAST wealth of knowledge here, FANTASTIC! I never even thought there was another world within replica watches, the depth is amazing. To me, high level reps are masterful works of art and they're functional to boot. Will I get just one? Nope.... I already have a preorder in for a WM9s SeaDweller, I'll probably have a Steelfish next month. Sort of like my others hobbies (nitro RC cars,Italian shotguns), you can never have just one. A PAM? Maybe when I'm emotionally available and ready for a relationship. ha! I was quoted about 280USD for a PAM104 by DSN superlumed and all. Others sell the Ultimate PAM104 for about 430USD. Contact any of the collectors listed, they all seem to have them in stock. In that case, I apologize. I really thought it is not available anymore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsubaki Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 No apology is warranted, there are so many variants of a PAM its bewildering. Not sure how anyone keeps track of them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegojack Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 I feel like I need to stick up for DSN. I read the negative threads about him, too, but decided to order from him anyway after I began corresponding with him. He promptly answered all of my e-mails, which I'm sure annoyed him given all the noob questions I had. He even sent me pictures of the watch he was going to send me. (At least it appears that way.) He sent me a beautiful 104 on a black croco pattern leather strap with all the upgrades he has available for $280 USD, which included the rubber logo strap. I thought the deployant buckle was a bit uncomfortable so I upgraded to a Manifatture Firenze black leather strap. My little project is now complete and I get misty-eyed every time I look down on my wrist. I'm thrilled to pieces and am already contemplating my next PAM from DSN; possibly a 111 or 177. It appears as though most of the bad press he got was in mid-2008. Either I got extremely lucky or his QC has vastly improved since then. Thanks to the membership for all the info available here. It's unmatched anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parryl Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 I feel like I need to stick up for DSN. I read the negative threads about him, too, but decided to order from him anyway after I began corresponding with him. He promptly answered all of my e-mails, which I'm sure annoyed him given all the noob questions I had. He even sent me pictures of the watch he was going to send me. (At least it appears that way.) He sent me a beautiful 104 on a black croco pattern leather strap with all the upgrades he has available for $280 USD, which included the rubber logo strap. I thought the deployant buckle was a bit uncomfortable so I upgraded to a Manifatture Firenze black leather strap. My little project is now complete and I get misty-eyed every time I look down on my wrist. I'm thrilled to pieces and am already contemplating my next PAM from DSN; possibly a 111 or 177. It appears as though most of the bad press he got was in mid-2008. Either I got extremely lucky or his QC has vastly improved since then. Thanks to the membership for all the info available here. It's unmatched anywhere else. very good follow up . care to share with us your photos ? i am also shopping for my first pam rep since i got poison last month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7777 Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Stormtrooper, I was struck by your insight...why do you say that the quality and availability of reps now are as good as it will ever be? Are you aware of something coming up in the midterm that will seriously impact this hobby? It seems as though there are dealers doing great business so I doubt they will fade away on their own. I agree that there is no point in anyone getting too agitated about making a selection...just jump in!!! Thanks Tony Apologies in advance but there is something about the OP and various responses that has really rattled my cage for some reason and I feel inclined to chip in. Tsubaki Dude you're just Tyre kicking here really, seriously , people have offered you sound advice and you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky driver Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Sort of like my others hobbies (nitro RC cars,Italian shotguns), you can never have just one. These Italian shotguns of yours do you love looking at them? Do you take them out for long walks in the country? Do you clean them and care for them? Do you read up all about their history? Do you and just love showing them to people that don't really care? ...or are they just guns?....relationships indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaPOFL Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Just put your toe in the water, get the "ultimate 104", "it's not that cold , the water's just fine!" and start learning to swim upstream......... You'll find you will never be satisfied with just one rep and will curse us even more for actually giving you advice to get one. where did you get that strap!!?!!! AMAZING!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoyaday Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Tsubaki, I think is asking all the right questions, same questions most of us newbs would ask, and he is doing his research thoroughly, dont see anything wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.