highoeyazmuhudee Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 I FINALLY finished building this sub after several delays and grueling tasks involved with everything on this convoluted project and when I went to fit the hands for midnight finding the date click over the damn crown fell of the stem. It had had come unscrerwed, SO i removed the caseback, it was already in the time set posistion, pushed the ETA button to release the stem and pulled it out with tweezers, refitted the crown and now it wont stay in the movement after putting the stem in as far as it should go. It goes all the way into its winding posistion put simply does nothing when wound and pulls out without even pressing the stem release button! any ideas guys? it's like a slap in the face after all I went through to complete this project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Only ever remove a stem in the winding position, the time setting position is the worst possible position to have the keyless works in when you remove the stem. This is one of the old wives tales that simply won't go away, that and overwinding a watch...only ever remove a stem in the winding position. You have to disassemble the watch enough to see what the problem is with the keyless works, and fix it. Sorry to say there is not other solution. RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustybrand Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 FWIW, I have had a couple of watches, a gen Omega included, that have had to have the movement clamps loosened slightly. The stem then slid in perfectly. It can't hurt to try before the disassembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted April 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 yeah I figured I'd have to tear it apart was wondering if any one else has had a similar issue so I could learn from their experience with it. Thanks for the info The Zigmeister about the winding posistion. I'll disassemble the keyless works and hopefully not ruin this ETA movement. I'll include pics for reference. Krustybrand I'm pretty sure the problem is internal as the stem goes in fully but doesn't engage, thanks for the input tho perhaps in another situation that would have saved me from tearing it apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted April 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 OK i managed to get the stem to click and lock in place, date change posistion works, time setting posistion works, MANUAL wind posistion just spins freely without winding the movement. any thoughts? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azerbyjam Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 OK i managed to get the stem to click and lock in place, date change posistion works, time setting posistion works, MANUAL wind posistion just spins freely without winding the movement. any thoughts? thanks Make sure the spring on the keyless cover is properly engaged against the yoke, see this pic borrowed from Bazz's keyless works tutorial Its easily overlooked but non the less vital that its in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 He's right, spring is not engaged... RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted April 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Make sure the spring on the keyless cover is properly engaged against the yoke, see this pic borrowed from Bazz's keyless works tutorial Its easily overlooked but non the less vital that its in place. after comparing the pic to my movement it appears you are correct what's the correct way to set this spring in its place? I could just pull it over(?) I currently have the crown stem in the wind posistion and all of the keyless works assembled on the movement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azerbyjam Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 after comparing the pic to my movement it appears you are correct what's the correct way to set this spring in its place? I could just pull it over(?) I currently have the crown stem in the wind posistion and all of the keyless works assembled on the movement Just push it gently with a screwdriver, once it clicks into place it'll stay put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted April 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 that got it! thanks so much for ALL your help guys, I think it might be time to upgrade my account Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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