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As someone who has lived in China for 5 years, yes we are indeed overpaying for our reps. We need to quit being a bunch of suckers, but when someone who wanted to buy a $6,000 Rollie sees he can get 99% similar for $300, he's happy to jump on that. Me, I got into reps as a kid in high school so I never even started from that "genuine buyer POV". A cheap Chinese watch that cost $30 to make, you want me to pay $300 for it? It's a rep forum culture thing. I've been lurking a buncha forums since 2007/2008 and I'm appalled at how we as a community have no balls to stand up to dealers. I mean aside from blatant cases in which ppl use forum admins to help resolve situations, we practically justify them lying to us, "Swiss ETA" movements being a prime example. Or stuff like no QC and crooked cyclopses, etc.--Casio, Invicta, Seiko, blah blah can do better and printing 5 different letters on the dial doesn't double the cost of the watch. Or you can just say I'm a cheap bastard, another $100 don't mean nothing to you, it's just a "buck" right? Well especially in this economy, and as a college student now, I care about how I'm spending my money, and you should too.

^Wow you've got an interesting connection there! I am surprised we haven't seen a replica that is accurate on the inside as well either. If what you said it true, I cna't wait to see a replicated Rolex movement in a Sub.

^I think that's true judging by some of the pics I have seen. I don't think it's permanent though, so that should not be a problem.

^We have a sadist that needs some counseling!

THe new Basel08 Sub has already been repped? I WANT ONE

Never owned an Omega, please explain how you can tell it's a rep?

^^^ I got one of those BWNGSKRK STEHLBOX engraved clasp Subs before too, my frist rep actually.

I'm such a cheapass, I stick around $100. But for the price, you CAN get some decent reps. Let's not lie to ourselves, rep dealers are making a HUGE profit. I lived in China for four years, and I can't even guess how little it costs for them to manufacture a Submariner case and bracelet. Movement misrepresentation though, that's just horrible! We should quit kissing the asses of these "trusted dealers", start posting names. Who has been confirmed to have "accidentally mistyped" their movements?

I'm a young'un still in high school but the kids here wear Panerai, Rollie, Bvlgari gens simply because mommy and daddy bought it--age and dress doesn't mean their watches are fake.

I got one Sub78 with a bad movement and misaligned xtal from Andrew, he replaced it free of charge with another that was much better. The difference between these $78 specials and the "Newbies Buy" $98 (new) noobmariners is that the $98 noobs have a slightly thinner crown and the correct date-mag. The case/bracelet on my $78 is pretty good, and even the pearl is not that bad. My only real gripe is that it has literally ZERO rehaut, the insert actually rises above the coin-edge of the bezel.

I am getting a white one from WBK! Someone posted earlier that the blackened clasp lettering could be removed--how would one go about this? I am thinking maybe acetone and toothbrush? But would that damage the steel? Would be hard to keep it away from the rubber too.

The new Subs have polished midlinks?

I like what you're doing with the QC EuroTimez, but thankfully I did get it resolved with my dealer before I posted. But the factory should be QC'ing these in the first place. There are plenty of low-end watchmakers that make $20-200 watches which will last years. Why can't a rep factory even come close?

Does it look like a small, maybe 2mm cylinder with a middle section that has a larger radius than the rest? I think I just had one of those from tearing apart a dead CN sub... but finding in my carpet will be impossible.

I got a $78 from Andrew and was victim to the QC issues. Crystal was crooked so cyclops was off, etched crown was off. Movement had date issues (stuck on 13-14-15-16-17 transitions, required many turns to advance 1 day, etc.), and the minute hand just came loose too. Now I can not even change the date using the crown. Bracelet and case were excellent though, and otherwise, it's a great watch. Andrew is taking care of it, and his service is good. EDIT: I forgot to say that someone who got a black Sub from TTK had a similar crystal misalignment, and even an identical scratch on an otherwise hidden part of the bracelet, leading me to think that the "noobfactory" is pumping out a lower-qual batch of noobmariners now. I'm pretty sure the 98's are the same as the 78's are the same as Josh's 108's. Someone who got a noob Yachtmaster had the same crystal issue as well. NOOBFACTORY COME ON!