ohhhhh the drama. I had work done from rbj and never had an issue. As far as modders go, let the member make up his own mind, stop the bashing and a$$ kissing. I have lurked for long and notice that there ia alot of petty nonsense that takes place ,dissapearing threads bashing people that cannot defend themselves either because they were banned or afraid to be if they chime in. I own 3 booths that are occupied by master watchmakers at a jewelers exchange and they have different levels of expertise and experience. I never hear one MF the other, and the sales girls would tell me if they did it while I'm not there. Zig is one of many modders, some prefer him, some do not. Just leave it up to the individual and all you can do is guide them. Steering always seems suspicious.