blackbard

I'll find the ad. Crystal was pretty damaged and seller estimated 2-4 hundred to be fixed by OEM. However, as some have speculated, they may not touch a modified watch.....

I'll see if I can dig up the ad again.

I appreciate the inputs. Very valuable insights. For me, I want a watch that not only has some "original" feel, but as most of us, I will get bored eventually, and trying to sell it will be difficult... It was the best price I had seen though....

Thanks again!

PM me.

You could ask if anyone has one to donate to you and one of us, potentially me would say yes. Welding is probably not a good option. Your strap might be too thick...

Would not pay more then $2300 for it (needs a crystal as well) considering u could get a full set for low 3K

I beleieve it was bead blasted to remove PVD finish he had on it

Nutz

You are correct. I was thinking in the 2K range as well...Thanks!

Groovy. Did not know these things. Thanks for the edumacation.

Not an expert, but depending on the price (and I'd use the fact it was b/blasted as a bargaining chip here, if I were you) I'd get it and send it too to Avitt or Zigg-y for DLC/PVD treatment.

The PVD Base Logo is slowly establishing itself amongst the gen collectors as a classic hand-wind Panerai piece. IMO you can't go wrong with that decision.

cheers,

b

Thanks. Never thought of the PVD option. How old is PVD in the pam world? Seems to be a hot ticket in the last couple years...

Been communicating with a seller about a Pam 000. He's had it bead blasted. First, it does not seem that the 000 get much love and second, it would seem that the bead blasting would lower the value. What are your thoughts? I am currently Pam-less and need to buy another before the money burns a hole in my pocket and dissappears....

Your thoughts please.

Thanks in advance.

So, do I need to get a specific version of the watch before I start the transplant? I do not know what version I have and whether or not the hands will need to be staked, or broached or...

Experts chime in please....

I found this. I wonder if the same procedure applies here.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5270104_waterproof-regular-watch.html

I understand this is the way...

Thanks for sharing.

I water proofed a black bird case to pass the same test as i test all my other watches so there is no reason that it would not be water resistant.

Excellent news! Can I send mine to you??

I see. Very interesting! If you finish with yours, please let us know I personally would like to get one done too

Will do. Need to know if I need a different version of the rep first. Not sure which version I bought here. I see a few frankens but most are just a dial change. I need hands and dial at a minimum since I have a spare movement....

Anyone have parts?

What happens if you accidentally push the pusher under water? Will the water leak in?

Probably. Not worried though. There are plenty of watches with this type of resistance that are not screwed. All of them have very stiff pushers.

Good luck with it BB!

It will be interesting to see how you WR those chronograph pushers. Especially they are not screw down.

Not to moving away from the main topic. My SOSF without purposely sent for WR, survived from Florida swamp earlier this year. I was amazed it's naturally water tight (not sure what depth it can hold up).

I figure, since Breitling claims 300M for this watch, it should be doable?

If I franken, do I need to be worried about which version of S/A?

I believe the skylands have o rings in the pushers so I would think the SA does too

DO IT

super franken it

Word! S!

Thanks Brother!

id recommend a non chrono model, seawolf or steelfish, much easier to waterproof and much less chance of a leak. The chrono pushers are a risk.

Agree completely, but I love chrono divers. Even if I buy, it will be a chrono. I wont be diving, just swimming....But you are correct....If I can find a diver WITHOUT the helium relief, it would be easier, but I dont think they are large enough and I love the S/A.

Cool R. Thanks for replying. I was just thinking about a nice brush finish to make it different. I'll keep you in the loop on my quest for the perfect diver....

If you run across anything interesting, ping me as always....

BTW, I'll shoot pics for our other convo.

I have a S/A and am considering a dive watch. I've looked at Oris, Breitlings and some other mid level brands but I keep coming to the point that I need a franken Breitling or a Gen for a tool watch.

My choice is to build the S/A into a super Franken, with Gen Dial, Swiss movement and then go through the effort of water proofing. I love the size of larger divers and really like the S/A.

What is your opinion? Build the franken or buy a gen?

Thanks in advance!

BTW, I have donor watches with Swiss 7750's and like the cheaper small wings white dials off ebay for gen dials......

Nice!

Drulee should know better if the datewheel fits. The valjoux specs seems to imply they fit.

I have two of the 7753 wheels if you need them.

As noted above that should be quite easy, just have to make sure the "modder" knows something about PAM and the 7753 movement, if he doesn't I wouldn't use them anyway.

Completely agree. Most shy away because they do not know the model or do not want to tackle the issues that come up. However, this particular part of the mod is NOT hard....

Will a 7750 DW fit the 7753 movement? And what kind of mods has to be made on the date pusher at 10?

@ blackbard: I don't think that Francisco do the DW mod as a generel service, or has he taken it on the menu?

According to the valjoux guide, its seems that a ETA datewheel fits the 7750 and 7753. I have 7753 including a famous maker's on this site.... date wheels if you ever get to that point. 7750 wheels are available many places....

I would say its simply drilling the ring in the area required for the date pusher. Both my 7753 powered pieces had this done and a brass pusher was installed in the ring to enable the function. I would say based on my pieces, this is NOT hard to do with a proper drill bit and support for the ring while drilling. You DO want it to be straight though for ease of movement. Drill press would be best....

Pam 172 today with new 6mm thick black oil rubbed leather strap from BlackBard.

Thick-licious!