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I don't know why people kept saying there is a difference (in dial text font) when there is none that I am aware of. Both models use the same dial as far as I know. Here's a couple of gen pics (177M) to illustrate my point: http://www.watchuwant.com/watches/panerai-pam-177-m-newest-m-series-luminor-marina-44mm-titanium-black-sandwich-dial-bnib You can see clearly from the gen pics above that the 177 dial font is the same as the 111 i.e., ivory cream in color. Tx - great build! Keep that dial in there as its the correct one.

Yep. Looks like they have improved the caseback engravings - much deeper now rather than the lightly etched numbers in the previous batch. My new 005K also has the same caseback as yours.

The "Reg. T.M." font is quite correct on the rep also. The gen CG for the 1950 models do come with different font engravings. Here's a couple of gen pics of the 312/359 CG's with similar font/shape/positioning as the rep: http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6007/dsc04570a.jpg http://img862.imageshack.us/i/56197763.jpg

Its the simplicity of the panerais that draws most people to the brand. With just a simple strap change or DLC coating, you can easily transform the look of the watch instantly. I have so many panerai straps that I lost count! I will need a big box just to keep all the straps together!

Nice to know another member is in NYC. We should try to get together one day. I do go up to mid-town around grand central for business meetings & industry seminars sometimes. I only got into panerais full on after I found the rep forums. The reps allows me to round out my panerai collection. I can't see myself buying too many of the gen panerais given that they are mostly very similar.

Hahahahaha ... there were already many PAM wearers in NYC before I even know what a panerai was. First saw gen 196 on banker's wrist about 3 years ago when discussing business deals in his area and got hooked right there and then. I have not looked back ever since. But I do wear other brands like rolex, IWC, hublots, stowas and longines, so panerai ain't all I wear and love ... @watchmeister - I didn't know you were in/around NYC. Do you live and work in the city? I am in downtown NYC's financial services area of course.

I would be interested in 2-3 as well.

+1 ... the rehaut depth on the JF case is correct to gen. With the correct gen-like crystal you'll have the same effect as w0lf said.

Yes. AP's and Tags have models that uses the DD modules. There are different DD types for different mvt bases.

+1 Well said Burnz. Its like listening to a bunch of school girls talking on the phone here ... much ado about nothing. I said it over at W-C and I will say it here too. @TBP - I don't think you got my point over at W-C. What I am saying is that ****e can happen with ANY movement, not just these. You are wayyyyy too paranoid here and most of your experiences are probably due to bad luck rather than anything specific that can be attributed to Tudor and this mvt. The issue I had with my ETA 6497 mvt was to support my point above i.e., it was supposed to be a great movement, highly reliable and simple to repair, but look at what happened to mine (problem with regulation to within COSC standards)? Yes I agree and have mentioned this a few times before that the servicing of this mvt will be daunting and no different with any other watches with this complexity. I just feel like you are whining and whining about something that *may* or *may not* happen. I don't think you should continue to torture yourself with this constant negativity about the mvt. Its not proven and probably wouldn't be given that Rolex is behind it (good enough for me, Omega is another story ...). Maybe its time for you to consider another watch with perhaps a simpler mvt setup? As for servicing my tudor mvt, I have access to plenty of expert watchmakers that can deal with this mvt should it be necessary as Marty in W-C. I don't use "high street watchmakers" - never ever did. I have my own trusted watchmakers for each mvt type. I trust the words of the more experienced members in the other forum as they seem to know the inner workings of that mvt and their experience is consistent with mine and I have owned many many high priced gens. I too have access to the RSC folks in the US/Switzerland should I find it necessary. As long as you buy from a reputable dealer (grey or AD) in the states, you are good too - these guys have access to many good watchmakers that can handle them. The situation is no different to yours in the UK ...

Nope. BK did his magic on the CG and reshape it nicely ... My preference is to have the stock CG's and then have it reworked by hand. While I like the idea of already nice CG lugs on the WM9 V2 or V3, most of the ones I have seen are either mis-shapen or one side is thicker than the other, so no thanks ...

... double post

I was waiting for you to chime in for a while since you are also a big fan of the WM9 V1/V2 casesets. I love my WM9 Hybrid LV with the V1 caseset coupled to a new MBW hollow mid-link bracelet/V2 clasp:

Definitely agree with you there! I bought all the different rep sub out there just so I can compare and find out what the fuss was. Even after all the different WM9 versions being made, I still find it hard to get rid of this one. All it needs is just a slightly better insert and I'm done. It has all the modern upgrades you can think of, modded by sub experts BK/Tribal (CG only) and the pearl is GEN.

Well, the master has spoken. Pretty much consistent with my observations as well. I am also very impressed with this caseset, whether its called the WM9 V1 or MBW/Euromariner V4 or TW caseset. Glad I used this caseset to build my F series 16610 LV which also happens to be enhanced by BK himself including his CG mod & latest datewheel overlay which looks perfect to me. Glad to see it is being made again ... Woohoo!