I ordered the SD lite from Andrew and couldnt be happier. It's a touch noisy, but that's the asian movt for you and the lume sucks. I don't care, i absolutely love the watch. If I wanted it to be perfect I'd plunk $6000 down and get the gen. Put my down payment on WM9's SD. From what I read he makes the best and buying at $425 instead of a few hundred more makes my wallet happy. Now If I can decide between an expII, turnOgraph, or Deepsea?!?!?