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now a serious answer why nobody mentioned the problems before ? took years till this got public - im sure somebody took a VDB watch apart before ? i bought a Sub replica a few years ago that was glued together - the whole bezel on the case - i lost just a few hundet bucks - but since then i hate everything with glue involved in watches i went public and it was nasty - it was from a well known modder at this time. and i doubt VDBs abilitys - sorry - they look not better than creations from other modders for a 1/10 of the price - + as it looks now they are shitty assembled without propper watchmaking skills - do you still remember the pieces from Watchmaster/Kenzo ? not 1:1 but amazing creations at that time with his own cases - sadly he makes now his own watches ... and why has to be there an super expensive "historical" correct movement an this watches anyway ? what to expect from this old worn out movements where finding parts is a pain in the ass ? but thats not a VDB problem cheers, Frank

maybe but with vintage Panerai the value is the actual history of the watch - with VDB you get some glued together DSN parts out of a bicycle shop in a little town thats only famous for school-shootings

+1 but im very thankfull that there are members here who really pushed the vintage reps really forward for fair prices (NW,OKA,T, Southy and so ) cheers, Frank

im not sorry for the buyers - come on 2k+ for glued together masterpieces with rusty movments ? 2k+$$ for an rep ? i actually did read the whole rant over WC - most of the members are long enough in the forums they should have known better .... cheers, Frank

great review ! thanks a lot ! after playing a few days with both watches here are my 2cents : i think overall the 111j is the better watch - meaning in better quality my 111j seems to be a different batch - is has nice AR on the xtal and strong lume on the hands. the dial lume is okay - but the gen has also not super duper lume. but the little too thin CG bothers me a bit my 177 has shitty lugbars it was a pain to get them out - even more to get them in again i like the weight - older ti-Pam where just too light - this one is okay the lume is brighter than the gen overall these new rep set the standard - only reason to get the gen if you want to join some Paneristi meetings cheers, Frank

thanks - PM on the way

very nice work ! i love it ! did you had trouble with the OKA tube and crown ? i had a nightmare installing it and im still not happy with the result .... cheers, Frank

super cool ! love the vintage look !! cheers, Frank

looks like the bracelet has solid middle links and the crown sits extremely low in the case ... cheers, Frank

unbelievable .. the same watch for some weeks already... cheers, Frank

cheers + Happy New Year !! Frank

cheers, Frank

LOL good eye !

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prices are going down - every AD has them in the window here - both dial colours - you can expect something like 2300-2500 € for the new watch .... the Hydro 1200 i see for 2100 - it has even a higher retail than the Heritage cheers, Frank

waiting here already 1,5 months for a watch case from HK to EU .... (Airmail) cheers, Frank

nice ! i wouldn't care about the regulator cheers, Frank

sorry - but who wears still Ed Hardy ?

cool watches !!! congrats ! strangely mine sits in the watch-box for more than 1 month i love the look - but don't wear it .... cheers, Frank

cheers, Frank

one more SUB : cheers, Frank

have a pic of your V3 straight from top showing the crown ? like the second pic i posted ?

the pics show my old V1 vs gen - the crown position is actually imho okay .... the bezel and CGs look more off 2me ;)this is what all version have in common

wow - great collection ! cheers, Frank

how is this crown position ? cheers, Frank