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Hi, Did a research for the PAM320, and there are only 3 topics, but no review or opinions about that watch. I saw the pics in this thread from PT, and I must say that I like this style. The DW seems to be a little sunken - what else can you say about it? I remember a board member saying, that a 320 ( or similar) will be released within this year. Any opinions? Thank you, J

I am thinking about putting the dial in a fluted bezel case... What do you think?

That's a seamaster "Jedi" - if you like it, you can find some more pics here Best, J

Hi, I just ordered this one from Connie and will receive it within the next days :-) Can anybody answer the question above? Does anybody know, if the DJ II does also come with a domed bezel? Thx,J

Oldie, but goldie...

Thanks mate, I thought this, too. Can you tell me what is wrong/inaccurate besides the missing swan neck regulator? To me it seems that the crown guard is also a little off. Best, J

Hi out there, a friend of mine offered me his PAM111 H watchhead for € 180. Since I´m familiar with Rollies & IWC, I can´t really decide if to purchase this one, or should go for the new cartel 111J ? I like the look of the watch, but don´t know nothing about the accuracy. from what I can see from the (crappy) pics, there is the swan neck missing. which one is the better choice, and why? can you please chime in? Thank you, J

OMG, no That costs me a beer You are " one of the other guys" ... Of course I want to meet you, but I've been to Spain (Madrid & Barcelona) 6 times last year...So voted for Sweden.. ...but would of course join a Spain GTG as well! Best, J

All the same to me - just tell me the city, I will try to participate :-) Cheers, J PS: voted for Sweden - want to meet concepta, modelizer and the other guys, and would like to pick up my Mark XVI...

Ok, maybe not 45 mins away from you, but.... http://www.chrono24.com/de/rolex/daytona-steelgold-black-dial-116523-bp--id1584793.htm?dosearch=true&searchexplain=false&resultview=list&query=Daytona&sortorder=1&maxAgeInDays=0&merchantId=-1&watchTypes=U&manufacturerIds=221&movementTypes=1&caseMaterials=9&caseMaterials=4&dosearch=true&urlSubpath=/search/index.htm&searchResultIndex=3 http://www.chrono24.com/de/rolex/2-tone-daytona-16523--id1638986.htm?dosearch=true&searchexplain=false&resultview=list&query=Daytona&sortorder=1&maxAgeInDays=0&merchantId=-1&watchTypes=U&manufacturerIds=221&movementTypes=1&caseMaterials=9&caseMaterials=4&dosearch=true&urlSubpath=/search/index.htm&searchResultIndex=0 My trusted watch store told me last week to stay away from the TT daytonas, if you want to have a watch that you can sell( if you have to...) Go for steel if possible http://www.chrono24.com/de/rolex/daytona-z-serial-stainless-steel--id1702773.htm?dosearch=true&searchexplain=false&resultview=list&query=Daytona&sortorder=1&maxAgeInDays=0&merchantId=-1&watchTypes=U&manufacturerIds=221&movementTypes=1&caseMaterials=9&caseMaterials=4&dosearch=true&urlSubpath=/search/index.htm&searchResultIndex=22

Freddy, now I've got it... Everything else you said is valid - you probably can't cure a dead or misbuilt movement. I read your thread and learned a lot ! Best, J

Excuse me, and please don't misunderstand, but why then buy a rep? There are nice brand quartz watches, and also nice cheap mechanical watches out there. I am buying the watch for me, not for anybody else, but I would never buy a rep which screams "rep".... So why buy an IWC "quartz"? Just my opinion... J

Ok, might be. But some are working, some are not. Your's do work, so the graphite did it's job on yours, on the other current movements treated by you, too. Domi said, some failed, some are still working. Nothing for me, no russian roulette, not worth to burn my hard earned cash. That's my conclusion. But it was worth a try, and worth to discuss...

Yeah, but a quartz Portu does not exist...afaik...

Mickey, I could tell you, but than had to kill you.... Just kidding... Serious: I organized two sec@12 movements for a very good price from a reputable dealer here ( can't name him w/o his permission) - the used parts were the wheels described above, includind a swap of the bearings, sweat, blood and cash.... We will see how this thick piece of sheeeet will do during the next weeks...or days Thx Mickey for your kind words....

Hi all, Hm,.... How shall I begin..? Had my weekly chat with Domi regarding this project. I also was able to source the parts for the modification. Domi built a watch to test if the performed moddings leads the movement to be reliable, and we will see how it performs within the next weeks. Freddy did a great job on several watches, and showed that the graphite job is still doing great work on his Daytonas. But as mentioned before, these were all 1st gen watches, and I have read and heard about sec@6 movements that wrecked although the graphite treatment. Maybe it was the wrong proceedure, maybe not. For me, the graphite treatment is a no-go, since you could end up with a $$ paperweight, as discussed before, and it is as risky as the modded movement ( since there is no long term test period at this moment). To put in a nutshell: We ( Domi and I) are convinced that it is possible to build a reliable daytona with several additional wheels and bearings, and approx. 5-6 hours of work ( from a skilled watchmaker!!!) ! There is no long term guarantee, since the test watch is only running for a a couple of weeks. Said that, you can calculate the costs as following: Base watch: € 220 Parts: € 190 Labour: € 200 ( just for the project, maybe more for the future) Shipping: 20 So, you end up with costs around 600- 650 Euro - in $ even more. You will receive a (hopefuly) reliable Daytona sec@6, with a still too thick case. Compared to the real thing, the thickness of the rep case IS an issue, if you are looking for an accurate one. If this doesn't bother you, you're welcome to build one. I must say, that I calculated about € 800 to spend on this project, but seeing a rep and gen in nature ( compared to the case), I must unfotunately say that this project died for me at this stage. But I am not despaired, I have the time to wait until a cheaper solution appears. The factories have all possibilities to make this one reliable, and I am not willing to burn my cash because they are too lazy to do so... Thanks to all who supported this thread with their knowledge and their connections, Thx, J

I have answers to the questions, and will tell you later. J

PM sent

Freddy, don't you think the reliabilty of your Daytonas has something to do, that they are 1st gen? I have heard that newer ones died although they were graphite treated. Maybe I am wrong

Is it this one? http://www.1-pc8838.com/0000ap00038-royal-jumbo-auto-ssss-white-swiss-28242-p-9303.html

Nice one! My next one - since I have a black one from Rolexfinder, I am considering a white dial. For me it looks a little silvery from the pics. Can you confirm if this dial is accurate or fantasy? Thx for Infos on this. J

What do you say about the white/silver dial and the so long discussed bezel screws?

Mickey, mate :-) Seems as if you know me very well ..... Ok. Sent email to several dealers. Simple. Only pics. Asked for parts. Will let you know. No modding at this time. No prices. Thanks. J.

Theo, what do you think about the bezel/screws? Looks a little better than our purchase, or? Swap the caseback against our solid ones, kill the sec hand or swap the whole movement and the hands? What do you think? Best, J

Katerchen will chime in, in 10,9,8,7,6......