sam_tgg

Not, v4.1

PT1 PT2 PT3 PT4 PT5 Hope you like them

The cartier chrono gen is: 41,2x54,3 mm and high 14,3 mm The santos normal gen is: 42x51 mm and 10,3 mm Oficial measurements I like it very much. It is different chrono, but the lenght.... I think it is too much for my wirst.

What about a vintage leather strap for a Ingy? I am thinking of ask for an custom strap for my new Ingy. In a dark vintage leather. I am thinking in somezhing like these leathers: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tre...53807&rid=0 What do you think?

I like a lot the Ventura v-matic II. This brand is really unknown, so I would never see it reped. So my question is if it is possible to ask for a custom dial. I would like to put it in a IWC GST Titanium case. Do you know some one that makes custom dials? Thanks

177H ................ sounds really goooooood

I really do not think the gen is based in a Valjoux 7750, beacuse that is a chrono movement. In the web it said nothing about the 7750, and in the catalog, it is a Panerai Caliber OP IX. In the rep is a chinese with seconds at 9. Some reps use a 7750 to have a "sweep" sconds at 9. I have the 090 and it is a beautiful rep, but the one I have (from Andrew) come with an open back, and the gen is close. I prefer it open

I will be in, for this strap. And Bob has perfect straps (I purchase some of them for my PAM). The thing, is if the form would be the correct. About the buclet, I looked for in internet, and in the books I have, but all the photos are from the front.

Devedander, look at the back: http://www.silix-prime.com/images/upfile/iwcs001-3.jpg

Yes, it is beautifull. The only thing it would be especially designed for us. I saw it in the AMG in an AP and it is really impresive. Something similar in black or dark grey in carbon fiver would be also very nice.. And to find a good looking buckle.

Torresp, very good idea. I will go for sure for the kevlar. But I never saw it from our dealers...

The problem with the shipping is the weight. I have already buyed one in Ebay germany. For 4 watches and with place for 6 more, but it costed 120 euros. I have not recieved it yet, but it is said to be no noisy at all. And in wood with piano finish. Lets say. I hoppe I will have it on friday.

Omega Seamaster Professional Chrono Paul & Jay have them!!!

At the moment there is no rep movement that can do a moonpahse. Just a night-day.

EU MUST start to do measurenets against chinese, and start to protect our bussiness. It is stupit to give hundred of know-how to the chinese gratis. This theory of "open markets" it is killing our industry, and will destroy our economy. I would not like to see the samerican social system here in EU. Our living stardars are just going down. Our reps, are beautiful, but not so great in technical side, comparing with high end watches (I mean Glasshutte, for example). The ETA movements and chinesse movements that we have in our rep watches, make its work, but obviously are on the low technical side of horology.

Fellfell, first of all, what the hell are you doing here buying "chinese junk" reps? I really could not understand it. Second: what the "“L'orologio" "Orologi" "OM orologi & Market” " says is for people that buy gens of 4000-20.000 euros (or more) or people that have no money to buy gens but like to see it in paper. and last: your opinion, is your opinion must be respected. But you must respect the rules of the forum. This is The Zigmeister post, and it is about the direction of reps world. Not about the quality or the opinions of the “L'orologio". If you want, you can start a new threat with this thema. Ah, for your information, in the last number of the "Armband Uhren" here in Germany, is a report of tourbillons, including the new chinese ones. And, for your information, they are starting to sell them by a German company. So, also in the Horologist world, the chinese movements are starting to be admited. Just the purist do not want to see it. As in cars, electronics, the chinese are starting to produce they our system, but that is another thema. The Zigmeister, thanks for your info, and sorry if my words are out the issue.

I think what RT is triying to sy is: in a Group Buy, the issue is to buy it in big numbers, so you can have a better price. Just this. Other things, like QC problems, customs, etc, must go to their respective forums: dealer reviews, watch reviews, tech problems. RT has no responsability of QC problems, box papers not sent, etc. That is a dealer problem and not a Group Buy problem. It is my first GB watch, I did not recieved yet (I am in the Jay group), but I am really happy that I am in: first I will contact a new dealer for me (Jay) (at the moment comunication perfect), and I have save more or less 100$. Ah.... for everyone: if you would have buy this watch out the GB, you would have the same problems in your watch, not more, not less. And for 100 bucks more!!!! RT THANK YOU. I would not have so many patience!!!

OK, Thanks for the info!

It is the standard one. It is the easiest bracelet ever! I writted to Jay but at the moment no answer.

Did someone find the IWC in jay´s web?

Sam_tgg : Germany So is one slot more to EL

RT, please could you confirm the Jay poosition (Paypal, box, tools, revison of each watch, etc) I am in Germany so I must go with Jay, as El do not ship to Germany, isn´t it? Please confirm it, and everyone could define oneself to go to EL or Jay. Thanks!!!!!!!

Shulz, Jay send to Germany also.

Horse, dont take it in the bad way; I know you are in the 25 list, but it is neccesary first to heard RT and them we can start to pay. Thanks

Please wait to pay till RT says something or that will start to be a problem. It is a list, and it must be handle with order. If we make something stupit, the dealers wont work in these group buys any more.