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the GMT hour hand jumps while in setting mode; it moves slowly one rotation per 24h.
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I received that new version of DSSD with Swiss movement. Butter smooth winding and it is -0.5 sec after 5(!) days total ! So I think it was right decision.
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the Andrew's version has better ceramic bezel, better shape of seconds arm (that overgrown bulb on the other end) and better pearl.
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I don't know if it is against forum rules, but I made a review of this watch on i.e. rep geek: http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?t=192314
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When ordering from Perfect Clones, there is an option to choose to stay with regular synthetic sapphire or go with real sapphire for $145 more.
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It is an option to choose real or synthetic sapphire while ordering.
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stil wrong, saying 2016 is the year of production
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I ordered graphite dial Skyland Avenger, from Joshua /Perfect Clones, the H-factory remake of their V2 from 2008, I suppose. Some things were corrected, like superlume. There are several excellent reviews of Noob and H-factory versions of this watch so I found it matured rep project and decided to make that little departure from my usual Panerai gusto. I allowed myself to put all pros and cons in one table:
More details:
- I got the watch on Pro-2 SS bracelet with additional croco print walnut strap with rep Breitling buckle
- the AR is very nice - it is very easy to hold the watch in such a way where sapphire totally "disappears".
- it is my first rep with A7750 where chrono minute totalizer advances exactly at the right moment!
- I love matte grey dial! I don't think black one is right for this watch - too much contrast and it hurts eyes, I suppose…
- the softly embossed hour digits (gen and Noob have it sharp embossed) - are not a problem, You need to inspect it closely to spot this flaw.
Bracelet:
- quite well executed with some weak points - it's easy to call it "rep" for these awful bolts for bracelet length regulation
- bolts are biggest tell, there are not "almost-flat", they are different to each other - heads shapes are all over the place. Only ONE bolt is correct to the gen, as you will see that on the video.
- when you adjust clasp elements a bit, it starts to close with a nice, powerful click
- correct markings with production date set to year 2007
- need additional polishing (few minutes with CapeCod polish will do) since edges had some glue(?) residues
Leather strap:
- nice quality, probably one of the best rep straps
- nice printed croco pattern
- all correct markings apart from the stamp "Cuir Veritable" where "Croco Veritable" would be correct, since the strap has croco pattern.
It is a matter of personal taste, but I would suggest to buy this watch with a nice rep strap instead of a bracelet which is awful light reflecting thing, way beyond my taste :/ Even in gen.
The bracelet "eats" the watch while nice strap works particularly well. No mentioning metal parts scratch everything (i.e. caseback) and get scratches and swirls from everything, too.
Ordering this watch with a strap has an additional benefit of avoiding scratches between lugs - inevitable thing during the process of bracelet installation, especially in rep-factory
Short advice - skip the bracelet
Some photos:
Photos from QC procedure:
Overall, I am VERY impressed by this watch. Visited local AD, the gens are not more impressive than this, really. Skipping the bracelet, of course
Lume is OK, since it is Luminova but You cannot expect too much with these small points and tiny hands. It is not Panerai's "demolish them with lume" thing, not at all.
Little HD showcase:
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I just put together all versions pros and cons, in table
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...and what about latest V2 remake from H-factory as delivered by Joshua/Perfect Clones? Upgraded C1 lume, what else? Maybe correct production date encoded between lugs (instead of 2016)? Color of subdial hand tubes is now correct, according to QC pictures I got.
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This watch likes brown matte straps; some photos of mine on Orloff's strap:
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H-Factory announced their 299N version, where dial is the same like 104N. I preordered so there will be photo-review soon.
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there is an underdog proposal from H-factory (to be available with better version soon) - 292J dial in 380 case. Supposed to be 261 but correct caseback and new placement of L SWISS MADE L still to be expected.
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Looks that there is more than one maker trying to replicate the look of movement. Slightly different shapes of bridges to be mentioned first...
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Whats DOA? Er what if there's no screw in the movement? Will the watch still function properly?
Yes its a noob version Polonus!
Dead On Arrival
This particular screw on swan neck becomes quite loose, sometimes. I had two watches where I actually had to seal these screws using wife's nail polish to keep them safe. Otherwise they were falling out by themselves. So it is possible the screw got out after the assembly of the watch and will get into gears.
The whole swan neck solution on rep movents seems to be more of apparance than actually - regulation. It will work without the screw
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I will post some good pictures of it in a week, I believe
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The real problem is that the missing screw can be inside the movement somewhere. You can expect DOA condition, unfortunately. Of course that is nothing a good watchsmith couldn't sort out in few minutes for you Is it Noob version? Looks like it is - too shallow serial number engravings...
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The gen watch reception was a bit lukewarm. The same was with the rep, I suppose. Anyway, I like the concept and design so I ordered one from Joshua. He eventually got one for me but was unable to pair the watch head with proper black strap - it was an asso strap available only. I don't care since all regular Pam straps are too short for me anyway.
I suppose the rep of 366 is a kind of rarity now that's why Trevor tried to persuade You into some Noob production.
The movement is rock solid high beat A6497 from the era preceding "platinum plated" bridges.
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AFAIK this watch is only available from H-factory. It is he same movement like in H-factory 005 - no problems. The only problem seems to be this watch is hard to get now. I was lucky I got one in shipment now.
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Do we know the weight of the GEN? Rep weights approx. 212 grams.
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(...) Yes, the crown is screw down. I tried to operate the inner bezel adjustment "wheel" (not sure how to call it) with the crown screwed in and screwed out in all positions (in the position to manually wind, in the position to adjust the date, and in the position to adjust the time). The inner bezel adjustment "wheel" would not rotate clockwise or counter clockwise no matter how much pressure I applied. I even tried it with a piece of cloth to avoid my fingers from slipping. These attempts were all done with the guard that covers the inner bezel adjustment "wheel" open, as there is no way to operate it when this guard is in the closed/locked position. Let me know if this is confusing and I can try to explain it better.
Now that is confusing the crown on 4 hour position is only to be used when dealing with A7750 inside (time, date etc.) - it doesn't affect inner bezel at all. I am writing it since you mentioned trying to rorate bezel in "all positions (in the position to manually wind, in the position to adjust the date, and in the position to adjust the time)". But back to the bezel - your crown (that one on the 2 pm) probably miss the small gear at the end of the shaft. I think it is that way, since that loose gear would stop the movement eventually - that's why I assume it is missing at all.
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Thanks Marblegranite for a nice review. I am still waiting for my diver 4000 to come - with new stock I think there are more differences between V1 and this version:
- height is correct since V1 version wasn't so tall (the manufacturer based on King Power caseset)
- a bit different machining overall (more accurate on V2 version) i.e. bezel now looks more correct to the gen
- the inner bezel is unidirectional as on a gen (movies on TD shows pre-production item with bidirectional bezel, as on V1)
- movement was changed to modified A7750 - which is closer to gen (HUB1401 is 7750 based)
As for seconds hands smoothness - it is a long hand on the Diver, which makes all ticks more visible. Never be smooth, more important if ticks "steps" are equal to each other...
BTW I am wondering if you could repair the bezel thing yourself.. what exactly happen? You unscrew the bezel crown and what then? The crown moved freeley without engaging the inner bezel? Or maybe it was screwed in so hard you believed it was stuck? The construction makes it disengaged from inner bezel when screw in or screwing back after regulation. Inner bezel is in operation only when the crown is fully out, not pressed. When you press the crown toward the case (for i.e. purpose to safely screw it back) - it disengages from the bezel, otherwise you could do unwanted changes to bezel position when securing the crown.
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..as for now - PAM 237H - quite nice out of the box.
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...and this is Low Beat.
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