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Hi friends,

I have always been dealing with Andrew. But I feel like he sometimes ask much more for the same watch. Trevor offers me the same watch for $70 less!

http://v.yupoo.com/p...albums/4303154/ ($178 one)

Andrew charges me $248 for the 2836 movement (+45 shipping costs to Europe)

http://www.ttw168.co...roducts_id=9085

I would like to know what the difference is. I think they are 100% the same. I don't understand why the 2836 is $120 more expensive then the 2813 anyway. Since an Asian 2836 is only about 50 bucks af far as I know.

Thanks.

it's not worth it at all

It's the classic SD from Andrew. Not the vintage.

I removed it really easy with a hairdryer.When the glue gets hot you can turn the insert a couple of rounds and then it pop's up.

http://www.watchmate...p?idProduct=358

Thanks. I hope this one looks decent

Stop.... step away from the SeaDweller.

Do not take the bezel off. If you want to change the insert, that's easy. Dig out the pearl, heat up the insert and pry it out from the hole.

If you try to remove the actual bezel it will most likely get bent and you'll be very sorry. These are not like the gen in your video.

Thanks!! I thought it was the same proces since TC has a link to this vid as well. I assume his cases are different.

Anyway.. I will try to pull out the insert that way. The pearl got lost.. that's why I need a new bezel.

I would be very pleased if somebody knows a good source for a classic SD insert btw.

thanks

Use a hairdryer to soften the glue. GL

glue? Are you sure?

Hi folks,

I get my knife underneath the bezel but I can't lift it. Even with a lot of pressure. I'm affraid I will mess it up if I any harder..

In this video it's seems quite easy..

But unfortunately it's not that easy.

What should I do?

thanks

If this is for a modern SD I have a gen insert

Classic..

Still haven't one. Will this one fit the SD?

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/Bezel-Insert-16800-Green-green-silver-For-Rolex-/251117897805?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a77cb084d#ht_1346wt_922

I actually haven't ever seen a SD with a green insert. Would that be strange?

Any thoughts?

http://www.trwatch.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_33&products_id=369

Ok Thanks!!

Btw see is sea of course

Look at 10 ... Too much messed up details and flaws

thanks all. I appreciate!

He can have mine for cheap plus it came from the awesome RWG

Your inbox is full? Can't send you a PM..

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That would be great! Is it black? How is the pearl? A decent pearl is good enough for me. What do you want to have for it?

Thanks !

Please post some pics once youve got it!

Hi all,

After some days swimming with my SD the pearl got lost.. So I'm searching on the bay for a new insert but can't find much. Some are really expensive.

As far as I know the Sub insert will not fit the SD, right?

Would this be a good one?

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=310304841671&index=0&nav=SEARCH&nid=13878888490

Please PM me if you have one or know a good source. Thanks!!

IMO it looks pretty good? No fat hands anymore, perfect dial, good pearl, great lume..

But bezel numbers looks yellow?

http://www.1-pc8838.com/rlss00029-114060-2012-nodate-p-12478.html

Pictures are showing a bad replica...Have you really payed 900 bucks for that??

Let me Google that for you ...... here you go!!

http://bit.ly/J7oFrE

I already did that bro.. but found not much good reviews. I'm sure there a really detailed side by side comparison rep/gen.. but can't find it anymore

but nvm..

Thanks! Nice review.

Search function seems not to work for me.. Always get message nothing is found.

If you know some more, please share

White is even nicer then grey

Is there a comparison between rep/gen somewhere? Can't find any. Just curious

thnx

I think there was a pvd stainless version early on.

The logo on mine looks fine, I near some people have paint stripped it out and reprinted it to a darker grey

Thanks.

And did I pick the best Top Gun? V1 + Super lume from Andrew.

I see.

So they are the same? The funny thing is that they all specific say "full ceramic case", but I have never seen them with a SS case? Maybe the ones from watcheden..

And what about the Top Gun logo's? Some are really perfect, others are messed up. Are they modified after of is it more a change of luck?

Thanks again.

Hi fellows,

I just ordered this Top Gun V1 from Andrew:

http://www.trustytim...roducts_id=3420

This one should be the best Top Gun available.

But I have seen pictures from Top Gun reps where the pushers are a little bit brown tinted with no shine at all. These ones often don't have a really deep black case but a bit dull and no equal finish.

Look at these QC pics for example.

Also many Top Guns have a really messed up Top Gun logo at the side.Bad painting..

Now I actually don't want a piece like that... Are there really better pieces around or are is this just because of the lighting circumstances?

This piece for example. It's a V1 case and case is ceramic.. but why does it looks so much better then that one below? Both are V1 full ceramic.

Nice

Ugly... V1 + super lume... case does not seems to be deep black as should be..

Thanks

Pics aint working anymore. Please fix !

/edit:

Pics are down 'cause of DNS change..

Pics are viewable by editing the link to current link or:

http://puretime.co/reviews/pam111/

Thanks for your reply. Very clarifying.

So you mean the gold movement vs. the real swiss eta which add an extra charge of $90 above on the gold movement?

If both are good movements and make the second hand move like a gen, then I go for the cheaper Chinese movement.. I really don't care about how the movement looks since you don't see it..

But from what I have read on repgeek.. there are many flaws on the ceramic sub:

A couple of typical flaws for the ceramic subs out of the box listed here randomly:

- pearl 3D appearance is bad

- wrong hour hand

- no rehaut engraving alignment to minute markers

- wrong crown height

- chrome rings on lumed markers too fat

- lume application lacks precision

- date wheel font too fat, wrong font type and not correctly centered

- cyclops lacks AR effect of gen

- crystal rim appears too slim due to difference in construction

- crystal height is usually too flat due to different construction

- crown embossing on clasp has thick high spacers between the crown branches

- bezel insert height and bezel insert engraving appearance is off

- rep case has geometric inconsistencies vs gen

So unfortunately I have skipped the ceramic Sub. I am going for the default Sub which has much less flaws as fas as I know..

Not sure which one yet..