DeeKa

Like you, I always assumed the albino '42 was a myth, until I read Stefano's theory all the way through & considered the facts he presents with an open mind. I think he makes a compelling case for the model's existence. Of course, no one can be 100% certain on matters like this without formal Rolex verification. But, as Rolex always refuses to verify questions like this, we are left to make our own decision & I am 90% convinced by Stefano's very thorough & in-depth detective work.

Rolex refuses official statements.

But there are Rolex employees with access to the production paperwork, who from time to time let drop a comment regarding a watch, a dial and so on...

But, as always, no written statement containing a yes or no, everything they say is in between the lines

Dee

It might exist Santa Clause living at north pole.

Just the probability is extremely low...

Dee

Nobody want's to listen to us silly Germans

Dee

That's nice. What mods does it have?

It looks pretty much like a gen

In my opinion the Oyster Date reps offer too few value for the money as you can get a head only gen starting from $700 when lucky.

Dee

White dialed GMTs AFAIK couldn't be confirmed authentic until now.

There is the tale of the Pan-Am ones, but until now no proof appeared.

Nevertheless it's a nice looking one - for me 100% rep - which I wouldn't let pass if the price is reasonable.

Dee

It's less the value of the shoes as how you wear the combination.

We were 4 wearing gens - 2 Rolex and 2 Panerai - 2 of us were wearing Nike free, so orthopeadic value on the one hand and stylish and colourful on the other hand without screaming to be current trend.

Dee

$485 for me...

Dee

I don't believe the factories get paid before the watches are handed over to the dealers...

Dee

Recently I had a conversation with other collectors regarding holidays and the watches you see in the club areas.

A lot were said to be fakes, but for some people it's harder to tell. "Look at their shoes" was quite a good hint given to judge the autenticity of worn watches

Dee

The spiderwebbing was due to a small batch of dials which were produced with a wrong mixture of laquer.

Same as for the cream dial Ex II which also was only a small batch of dials (originally )...

Dee

Any pics? Who is WSO?

WSO = ebay seller "wholesaleoutlet"

Dee

Time correct would be a rivited for delivery.

But when folded bands have been available they were fitted as replacements...

Dee

To split up the shipping fees with my SD order I decided to take a Milgauss with simple DG2813 with it.

From first communication and payment on March 4th to delivery there were passing 15 days even with UK transshipment and repacking.

Unfortunately there were no QC pics shipped and also when asking for tracking this was promised but I never recieved any tracking code.

The watches arrived well packaged and the first inspection showed flawless optics on the Milgauss.

To comapre accuracy with the gen I took the following measurements:

~ Width (10 o'clock to 4 o'clock): 41.22mm

~ Width w/o crown: 39.99mm

~ Width including crown: 43.27mm

~ Length: 48.98mm

~ Bezel width: 39.22mm

~ Crystal/Dial width: 32.21mm

~ Crown width: 6.89mm

~ Thickness: 14.00mm

~ Bracelet link thickness: 3.21mm to 2.82mm at the clasp

~ Bracelet width: 20mm to 15.72mm at the clasp

~ Weight on bracelet w/ all links: 153,5 grams

From the appearance the clear crystal / black dial version is a spot on copy which partly comes from the absence of the annoying etched coronet other reps have in the crystal.

Taking a magnifying glass for closer inspection shows a nice smooth dial with correct printing and well positioned markers. Just the lume in the markers is not applied with precision, so that it's uneven or partly covering marker edges.

The rehaut engraving looks nice and is quite well positioned and spaced. It's just 1/4 minute off which will only be spotted with magnification.

Opening the caseback shows that even in this lower pricerange the correct double caseback which in the gen helps shielding magnetic fields is present. The interior is clean and doesn't call for an immediate cleaning service.

As usual screws in the bracelet are not fixed well so tightening is needed on some of them.

The cutouts of the SEL endlinks are not very well done, but this is a usual finding even in higher priceranges.

The timeholding was ok for the simple movement - without any timing efforts -12.5 seconds/day.

Dee

And don't rely on pressure information given - I recieved a "TD personally pressure tested" SD with broken tube, so not waterproof!

Dee

Nice work!

Here I have an old photo of a T22 fitted loooong time ago

Dee

Definitely!

If you can get a complete website like this dor 215.- it's a bargain!

If you wanted to link to something special - then just correct your link

Dee

I believe typing "trusted dealers" in the search function up there and then read a bit isnt too hard a work.

I think this is exactly NOT the way how you find them.

You'll just get a lot of threads with questions where to find them, stating that XYZ is not a TD, ...

And the naming of the section isn't easy to associate with being for TDs!

Dee

Excellent dial but...

... I'm missing the hands in your bag

Dee

I love the reason for the watch, but the watch is a huge ugly joke. I wonder is JC has one?

Sure he'll wear one on the dive and is allowed to keep it - one future specimen for the collectors market...

Dee

Getting screwed and finding out when in good mood is one thing, finding it out when in financial troubles is completely different.

Invite him for some beers and show him your nice reps. Have an evening full of watchtalk and laughter. This might push up his mood!

Dee

"Cartier is worth nothing without the sales papers" is the word in gen world...

Furthermore I never saw a red Cartier one, so if, then go for the white.

Dee

I'd say rep with a gen insert.

Dee

I would go the other way and restore the gen case.

It might not be cheap, but as long as you conserve most of the gen engravings it's worth it!

There are goor casemakers around which can restore cold cases - i'll have a gen golden Rolex pocket watch fixed there for an exhibition.

Dee

I wouldn't phone personally...

In my experiences an official "lost parcel tracing" can get stuck things out of being forgotten.

If they keep it for any other reason than it may just have slipped behind something it may not a good idea to show that you are awaiting it.

Dee

I'm pretty sure they didn't show it at Baselworld because it's not for sale.

Dee