Well, the watch did arrive today. I am surprised. The quality is pretty good, VERY heavy, it wasnt DOA, the lume is...fair, everything looks ok. The bracelet looks nice, but the screw/stem (if that's the right term) that holds the bracelet to the clasp came out. When you connect the bracelet to the clasp, then put the stem in, it has a small flathead screw head on one end, and ...well nothing on the other. Its missing the other end of that screw/stem that holds the bracelet on to the clasp. I will post pictures later. Eventhough the watch did arrive, that was a lesson learned to keep coming back here to the forum to check for TD updates. Thanks to everyone who chimed in and helped, much appreciated.