folex

there you are moneybags. 

Do you think that was a satire video?

 

Looks like it as when he was winding the rolex he was like

 

"Its very quiet, and if you hear like meshing like quirk quirk quirk"

 

BUT IT IS LOUD!! I can hear it! Sounds pretty bad.. LOL

 

But he could have been just purely delusional. haha

It can't be me bro. 

I was wondering why he would say the movement is platinum gold when its obviously gold harvested from the exotic mines in Indonesia, owned by the family of member @folex, who by the way is the guy to kidnap if you guys want to make a quick buck to buy gen rolex effortlessly.

 

Nice of you to quote me on this Mr.A LOL... The gold that we harvest is platinum-titanium-diamond like-gold. If anyone kidnaps me, the only thing they'd get is a suplex by Mr.A. He promised the safety and well-being of his dear friends

 

This was hilarious. Thanks OP & Mr.A

 

MICROSCOPIC CHISEL AND HAMMER TO GET THE ENGRAVING DONE!!! LOL!! WHAT A GENIUS!! LOL

I would say that the biggest difference between the two is the price tag.

 

Agreed. No one is going to call you out on a Noob 390. No rep is perfect, this comes very close, and the difference in the price tag really justifies this as well. 

still waiting for that pam422 instead.. lol

where did you get that strap mate? Its so beautiful

Was gonna say.. It suits u perfectly!! Maybe because of your extravagant lifestyle mate.

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Bro, why dont u take a deposit first? Say maybe 25%? Least ud know whos fully interested or not.

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There are improvements with the divers, but they always seem to get the inner bezel incorrect. This is the gen of the FC diver, notice how the font is slightly different and the lume application is also very different. The closest factory ive seen so far to replicate this is H factory. The main flaw with that is the slightly yellow tint on the lume, in which if it was white, i would 100% go for it. I think the H is severely under-rated and they deserve more credit.

To return to our topic of the accuracy of the inner bezel. The regular SS version has a slight difference in font and lume application which really bothers me. The level of detail in the lume application is more than the FC divers which makes it obvious that it is a rep. Its sad to see how such minor details have such a huge impact of the big picture of the diver. It becomes one of those: so close yet so far.

Someone posted a pict of the gen diver, id repost it here. Even from a distance u can still tell the difference. (Pict #2)

But on the topic of the factories intentionally not making it right, i completely agree with what they are doing. But i think if they switched the strategy to making it right, charging a premium, and make more accurate models, they might make more money. But hey, everyone has different arguments. I for one would be willing to pay 2x more for an accurate model, and wouldnt most of us, which is why many end up modding and going franken.

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Before going further,

Few things you must learn abt the forums if you havent alrdy known. Watch forums are extremely high on trust, with that being said do be cautious when dealing with members. They might not have ill-intentions but your expectations might be different.

However, you should realize that when you are dealing with a TD, there are no "what if things turn sour, than the bank guarantees." TD's will not attempt to screw u over for $300, their reputation is worth much more. If you have problems with a purchase with a TD, post on the forums and im sure they would work it out. I get quite fed up when new members purchases and put notes in paypals or reports dealers on paypal. It makes our payment much more difficult when TD's do not accept different methods of payment. I.e. Paypal. So please do your research and dont screw things up for the community.

So back to the question, id go for the Noob. Both are similar in quality if you are not familiar with the rep world, but the noob wins in terms of accuracy.

Enjoy your first rep. It wont be ur last

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Just want to share with you rep folks regarding a Geneinstien 3717 that I have. I purchased it from an m2m and got a very remarkable buddy on this forum to aid in servicing the watch for me.

It has a geneinstien build will all gen parts except the movement and buckle. However the movement is a swiss eta 7750 gen movement, and after freshly serviced, it should count as a geneinstien

A special thanks to my buddy Mr.A, a wonderful guy, and i was fortunate to have met him in real life. A true valued member of this community.

And now for the picts

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Hahaha, more like suplex mountain for u mate;)

It is indeed frustrating. The more frustrating thing for me was the sound of the rotors. God they are a big give away once you shake them up, and it doesnt feel solid.

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I looked for your comparison but didn't see it. Did you remove it?

I think he was referring to a real-life comparison, not a review.

I.e. Comparing to his own gen or his mates.

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This thread (and rep model) is more than 2 years old.. if you are interested in the ROO Diver, the V6/V7 is the one you want. 

Some improvements made of course, but we are talking about improvement from a 90% accuracy in the V3 to maybe a 95% in the V6/V7. Just my opinion of course.

On the wrist in the wild, the perceived accuracy versus gen is probably higher, even if the guy was wearing a V3.

Remember that most of the differences highlighted are spotted upon scrutiny, not casual inspection.

 

Unless of course you are like my friend and fellow member Folex who dedicated 78% of his free time studying and dissecting ROO diver reps.

 

While i am studying ROO diver reps, someone else that i know off simply buys the gen and the rep to just compare it side to side. Then he goes off and mods it to see what the limits are, but always ends up selling it for a bargain for the members here. A remarkably generous fellow that guy. Don't you think Mr.A?

 

On a related topic, I think the new divers has made vast improvements in their Lume, and you're probably right. a 90%-->95%, a huge improvement in my books, but still definitely not gen-like.

JF factory is certainly very good, I've seen many people in other forums leaning towards the V5. You can look up at intime.co for the V5, they have good pictures there.

 

GL

The picture you showed is a Rep.

 

7750 Movement with modded plates to make it look like a P9000. 

 

As StormTooper has mentioned, the gen movement is different, built differently and the tell is the placement of the wheel. 

 

The biggest tell is the pinkish jewel, where the gen has a darker pink. Just notice also the detail around the gen movement where that jewel is located and you can see a vast difference between the gen and the rep.

 

Best of luck, hope that helps.

Schumi? Was this what this thread was about?

Please pardon me young J.

The Schumi is a well-made rep, but the datewheel ring, as well as the sub dial rings, are too thick.

The datewheel font is a little off but liveable. The usual datewheel position flaw applies, and the actual finishing of the dial is not clear from the pics.

In brevity, I am likely skipping this one, despite the marketing hype.

I anticipate a V2, not out of naive hopes, but because the maker spent a lot getting this model repped and produced. They would be hoping to push numbers for this watch, and feedback from the market would be heeded more seriously, much like the diver series. I would advise you to be patient. Do not jump on the bandwagon just yet. You will likely end up selling it, knowing your fastidious character.

Hahaha, your advise is always very insightful pulling the community from false hypes. I think your position is more suitable for a guru in a stock market .

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J, I am a low-profile collector of gen watches, like you are.

But I think we both understand the value of owning a watch, gen or rep, for our own pleasure, and not needing to show it (them) to the world.

What we wear, where we stay, what we drive, are all private affairs as far as we are concerned.

The man stepping out of a Lamborghini and the man sedately driving his Toyota gets the same amount of respect from me, and I would not hesitate to tell either off if they step on my toes. Likewise for the guy flaunting his AP and the dude casually enjoying his G Shock. They are personal choices of watches and does not make the owner more respectable or impressive in my humble 2 cents opinion. The watch is meant to please the wearer and not the rest of the world.

I wear my gens and reps almost equally, and I could not care less who looks at my watches. They are for me solely and not a single other person. I have stepped out of my fairly exotic car wearing a rep, and I have driven my more mundane work car wearing a $50k gen. Its my choice, like it is the choice of any one of you when it comes to what to wear, where to live, what to drive etc. Wealth is relative, and the world is a superficial place.

Create your own universe and be happy in it. Live by your rules and keep yourself happy, as long as you do not cause harm to any others in the process. If your neighbour thinks your watch is a replica, its not your problem. If he thinks its gen, its not your problem either. Choose your watch and wear it well, and may you have many happy moments when you glance at it. The rest of the world? Why, it doesn't really matter does it? There are more than 6 billion people in this world. You only need to please one, where your watch is concerned.

Very well said.

On a separate note, what do you think of this schumi?

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I don't get the ap hype. They are beautifully finished but it so unbelievable when wearing one....And isn't that what it is all about in rep world? Unless you are a famous movie star or football player stepping out of a 2014 Bentley I would call you out immediately.

I do understand your point, but apologies in adv, i think that perspective is rather ignorant. There are so many rich people in this world. We don't have to go too far, Take for example the famous Mr.A on this forum. Take a look in his watchbox and ur in for a surprise sir;)

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Hey J, I'm not a veteran but the white ceramic looks very off to me if you can compare it to pics of the gen.

The gen ceramic color seems to be more solid, and with a matte finish.

The rep in the pictures look like a cheap toy trying to pose as an AP rep, a rep of a rep if you get me.

Stay off for now, wait for the next iteration. Look at the divers mate, has there been a version without a next iteration?

Actually when i mentioned AP veteran, i was referring to you sir

Very much agreed, i was looking through the gen picts and it does look like a toy. Quite sad, but true. And yes, new versions keep coming out. For the better.. Or for the worse.. Haha

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I happened to stumble across this. A white Ceramic AP Diver?!! Amazing how quickly these rep makers can actually respond. Any insights from AP veterans would be appreciated Do chime in!

 

http://www.pure-time.com/product/royal-oak-offshore-diver-white-ceramic-noob-best-edition-on-white-rubber-strap-a2824/

Hi, i know many of us here are not a fan of RG watches, especially on reps, but have anyone purchased the pam393 before? Or anyone willing to chime in on the accuracy? I'm quite fascinated by the aesthetics of it.

 

Thanks

amazing

Looks pretty good! Only thing is, the 50 on the inner bezel, looks like the 5 and 0 are either touching or really close. I wouldn't upgrade from a V3 but if I were looking to buy my first one, this one is worth considering.

yep yep

 

Honestly Mr J I think they took a step back with this one. Like what A said, the 50 looked better on the V4 to me. 

i guess you're right. they mistaken it for a regular diver's lume instead of a cf. the CF does have spacing between 5 & 0. 

 

Your inputs have been very helpful

Saw this up on puretime, the new V5 CF AP Diver, looks like they've updated the inner bezel again, though imperfect but looks better. Seems like theres a war going on with the NF and JF, as they are just bombarding with the "newest" version from each factory. lol. 

 

Fyi, V7 Diver is also out. LOL LOL

 

Chime in guys! 

 

http://puretime-asia.com/product/royal-oak-offshore-diver-forged-carbon-11-jf-best-edition-on-rubber-strap-a2824-v5/

Hi Mr.A, thanks for your review. =)