Stepan

Sorry for off topic. But let me show off this beauty from Toro. It's Noob v3. Great watch and Toro is a real TD.

Please don't get me wrong it was a joke. I don't trying to be rude. I'm really thankful for all your help. Actually I'm surprised to see such interest for my topic. Thanks to all! Sure I don't want to deal with Josh again. So I want to ask about any other place to buy Cartel 5513 submariner. I still want to build decent vintage piece. I can't buy it now because my money that was saved for reps gone on Toro's Pam111 but I would like to know where I can buy base for 5513 in future.

Yes, not a biggie Legend (if you live and work in USA)

Yes, my wife signed the document knowing package is empty. This document actually says that package arrived in Ukraine damaged and empty. So our postal worker don't tried to trick her. Also Josh complaining that he can't return money from China EMS because my wife signed something. But he declared 25USD as price of "Toy watch" in postal documents so as I understand EMS can't return more than 25USD to him. I even offered to pay him this 25USD in return for a new watch. This proposition was simply ignored. I don't expect to receive my watch (from the very beginning of our conversation with Josh I saw that he don't want to solve this situation) I just want make this situation public so other members can judge if they want to deal with him.

Hope this option will be offered to public.

I wonder is it possible to make a run of proper bezels to fit Silix case.

Just received this pam111 from Toro. I'm happy!

Mike on a bike said opposite.

Josh is not trusted here (now I know why). So mods can't do much. But Mike on a bike helping me.

There is not much luck with Paypal. They don't like rep watch buyers as much as rep watch sellers.

Nothing happened. I just waist my money. On all my e-mails he had standard reply that he don't received papers that proved the watch was stolen on China side. My recommendation will be do not deal with him. Dealing with him is kinda lottery. Customer service is awful.

Leather working is dangerous.

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Finished 6152/1. Or almost finished...

6152/1 today.