Stepan

Sorry for off topic. But let me show off this beauty from Toro. It's Noob v3. Great watch and Toro is a real TD.

Please don't get me wrong it was a joke. I don't trying to be rude. I'm really thankful for all your help. Actually I'm surprised to see such interest for my topic. Thanks to all! Sure I don't want to deal with Josh again. So I want to ask about any other place to buy Cartel 5513 submariner. I still want to build decent vintage piece. I can't buy it now because my money that was saved for reps gone on Toro's Pam111 but I would like to know where I can buy base for 5513 in future.

Yes, not a biggie Legend (if you live and work in USA)

Yes, my wife signed the document knowing package is empty. This document actually says that package arrived in Ukraine damaged and empty. So our postal worker don't tried to trick her. Also Josh complaining that he can't return money from China EMS because my wife signed something. But he declared 25USD as price of "Toy watch" in postal documents so as I understand EMS can't return more than 25USD to him. I even offered to pay him this 25USD in return for a new watch. This proposition was simply ignored. I don't expect to receive my watch (from the very beginning of our conversation with Josh I saw that he don't want to solve this situation) I just want make this situation public so other members can judge if they want to deal with him.

Hope this option will be offered to public.

I wonder is it possible to make a run of proper bezels to fit Silix case.

Just received this pam111 from Toro. I'm happy!

Mike on a bike said opposite.

Josh is not trusted here (now I know why). So mods can't do much. But Mike on a bike helping me.

There is not much luck with Paypal. They don't like rep watch buyers as much as rep watch sellers.

Nothing happened. I just waist my money. On all my e-mails he had standard reply that he don't received papers that proved the watch was stolen on China side. My recommendation will be do not deal with him. Dealing with him is kinda lottery. Customer service is awful.

Leather working is dangerous.

6152/1

Finished 6152/1. Or almost finished...

6152/1 today.

MM today.

PM was sent. Actually I was a bit disappointed with Josh reaction.

Ok ok. Good that I ask first.

II have the same thoughts. Should I try to open dispute in paypal?

I know Ukraine may have a bad reputation but I don't have problems with our post. I know it because I'm sending many packages abroad (to USA mostly) from my work. Anyway, I see my chances is not high? Will PM Mike on a Bike. Than you much for your support.

I from Ukraine I ordered couple of times from Silix and more expensive watches from River without any problems. Watch was 188$ shipped. I hope to receive my watch finally.

www.pf-818.com - ordered here, but paypaled on some watch straps website that Josh give me.

Hope I write in the right subforum. I need your opinions on problem that I have with Josh (PC). I ordered cartel 5513 from him. Yesterday package arrived without a watch. Also it included documents that package arrived damaged and without watch. I made few calls to local EMS office and to the central EMS office and they say that watch was stolen on China side because it arrived like that. And they make forms CN43 (which says that package was damaged when arrived) and CN24 (which says that nothing was inside). This form was sent to china EMS office and they should pay damages to the seller. I give all this information to Josh (with serial numbers of CN43, CN24) and made photos of documents I have. He says that it was stolen on my side and in this case he don't responsible for the package and hinted that I faked the documents. Maybe someone has same problem and can suggest me something? What should I do in this situation?

Looks great!