Greystash

The Swiss-T<25 denotes a Tritium Dial.

These sub dials were manufactured in the late 80,s and 90's. The tritium of course makes the markers and the hands glow in the dark.

Looks good to me- correct rehaut, crown sits high on the case- that's the one thing no rep has imitated, good pearl. Enjoy your new watch. I much prefer the old 16610's w/ tritium dials, lug holes and the old 93150 bracelet (w/ 501B end pieces?).

Thanks for that alligoat, it

Just out of curiosity, what year is W? My reference books at work! It's got to be 90's- tritium dial, 93150 bracelet.

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Well, I hope it's all on the level anyway, because I just agreed to buy the dam thing. (Just waiting on a final delivered price)

Would anyone like to look it over before I send the money? Remember the dollars are in AU so $3500 is around US $3125.

Submariner Link

I think I've done enough homework on this one and I'm hoping with a service it shoud come up a treat.

Thanks guys, I also found this Gen "W" Serial Sub, which is a match.

Genuine.

16610 comes with both "S" fonts, so no problem there.

I tried hard to find a picture of a gen dial the same as this one. Could you give me a little push in the right direction?

EDIT: The '1' in 1000, looks oddly close to the '000'.

Hey Guys,

Do you think this is a Gen or a Rep? Notice the (flatter) font, especially on the 'S' in Submariner.

Submariner Link

Also the '1' in 1000.

I don't know enough about these mid 90's Subs to make the call, but the font looks different to a lot of gen sub dials from the same period.

Rip into it...if you can.

Looks great pfff,

I reckon ageing is one of the most convincing mods you can make to a rep. Instead of

Makes me want to go climbing. :0)

Credit where credit is due By-Tor, that

Look forward to seeing some clear close ups.

Nice collectible...Thanks for sharing Freddy!

My sentiment exactly. Thanks Freddy; that's gorgeous.

Greystash, you might find this an interesting read

Dudes in Aus you're either a Holden or a Ford guy, and I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule as always but really your either an Omega guy or a Rolex man. [sNIP]

I can't say I'd agree with that, I would like to own the Sub as well as my Black SMP and I like both watches for different reasons. If I could justify paying the price of two of these 2254's to buy one Rolex Sub, I would buy one. I'm a fairly pragmatic person however and I just can't see the sense in it, out side of the investment potential.

[sNIP]A friend of main show me his new Gen seamaster at the weekend and even though it was a mid size number it felt heavy and inflexible the strap felt stiff and uncomfortable. But it was a solid number.

I have found the speedy style bracelet to be very smooth and comfy and easy to forget about, it is heavy though and I guess sosme people don't like that.

[sNIP]There is also something more serious about Smp

Does anyone else see the irony in that the quality of the replication, becomes its own demise?

Hey, if you get tired of it, I'll trade it for any two reps in my collection.

Don't get me wrong I actually really admire both watches a lot. It would seem my disappointment however was based on a misunderstanding of the Sub design. I still may in the future 'go all in' and buy a Sub atm though, I can't go past the beauty of this Black gen SMP that I am wearing right now. In fact I just sized and attached a secondhand gen bracelet to it so that I can put the original bracelet away and keep it in mint condition for any possible future sale.

Would you like to have a shot at explaining the pointy CG

There is truth to this. The Sub is probably one of the most "tool" oriented of the "tool" watches by Rolex.

It certainly has redeemed the watch somewhat in my mind.

@ Greystash

Your mistake was in 'idolising' the cheap, dated pos in the first place

which naturally hyped you into aticipating otherwise.

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Thanks Pug, that brings back a little of the magic. Yes I

You know what that cheap feeling bracelet equates to?

Comfort.

How so?

Thanks guys.

Swdivad, I actually read that article a few times before I bought the SMP this year. Now that I look at it again the stand out to me (and I am well aware of the irony of what I am about to type) was the Gen Sub

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That looks awesome freddy; Merry Christmas. How could anyone call that without holding it under their nose?

In my eyes when it comes to mechanical vs quartz it depends what I will do with it. I used to wear my gen Rolex's at the golf course for alot of yrs. Problem was I would always have some that would lose time. When I sat down to think about it I hit about 650 balls a day 6 days a week. So for that reason I will buy a quartz watch if I will wear it on the course and a mechanical if I wont be. I also have a tendency to throw the watch in the little ball area of the golf cart and I just think it is not as hard on the wallet to lose a quartz. I also like the fact I dont have to worry about them losing time if I shove them in a drawer for a few months.

I think the quartz is something simple for day to day use if you will bash it around in a careless and wreckless manner. Now my dad did use his gen orange hand explorer when he layed the brick for the garage.. But that is another story for another day

Hey striker,

I was about to disagree with you and say that they are made to handle general shock in sport; but 3900 shocks a week? That is not something I would want an expensive chronometer to be enduring.

Having said that though, I was finally convinced to by mine by a bricklayer who said he wears his to work everyday.

Leaving it laying around though, that's yet another story and a point well made.

Does anyone want to guess why there seems to be NO interest in this watch?

I think it is not moving because it's missing the Bond factor.

With the hour markers, speedy bracelet and sword hands, it's doesn't resemble the Bond Seamaster 2531.80 and with a blue dial and silver bezel, it doesn't resemble a Rolex Submariner.

I'll probably get shot in the Omega area for this, but I think that a big portion of the popularity of the black version of that watch, (the 2254.50) and the new Planet Oceans, (apart from the fact that the PO 'is' a bond watch) is that they both resemble a Rolex Sub and look the part on a black NATO.

I like what Pug said; buy what floats your boat, life is too short to do otherwise and you can't take it with you.

... can you post a pic of the serial number and model number thats stamped between the case lugs? that would answer a lot of questions perhaps?

How about it lanikai, can you get the bracelet off that beauty?

O.k. lanikai...best I could do atm with your shots.

First Josh's MBW, then out of the box MBW then, Gen.

First Josh's MBW, then TTK's MWB.

First Josh's MBW, then TTK's MWB.

First Josh's MBW, then paso's MWB.

I'd be honoured .. but your statement made me think you were bulimic ... i read: "I'll have lunch and throw up."..some side etc...