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Oligarchy aren't that stupid. They're always a few steps ahead in the marketing game. British Royal family is a good example. They actually have several PR teams between them working around the clock. In House too! Us plebs are easily placated

I trade online too (nearly 7 years now), but in an unrelated industry to this. In the case of lost/stolen/damaged goods, we replace the order and claim the money from the delivery service. There is no point squabbling with customers. Either the documentation is legitimate (easily checked) or it's not. If it is, then the onus is on you as a seller to ensure that the customer gets and is happy with what they paid for. Laws in the EU are clear on this, and leave no room for error (the laws are tighter than brick and mortar sales). I think the discrepancy in seller attitudes stems from our respective legal positions. Attitudes in much of China (my other half is Chinese if you're wondering) resemble attitudes in the EU before we had the DSR's introduced. Sellers would often be openly hostile and suspicious to complainants. After so many years though, sellers just grin and bear the pain of it. Arguing is pointless. Sellers lost the vast majority of any battle they tried to fight, whether they were in the right or not. Either the customer is happy or they're not. And its your job to make that happen. No matter what Stepan, you will get either your watch or money back. So don't worry. Hopefully Josh will be in a more reconcillatory mood tommorrow! If he won't resolve it, well let Paypal adjudicate. They'll examine all documentation etc and know what to do.

Pretty cool actually. Some really cool ideas get floated around on KS and Indie, love seeing them actually come to market. Some nonsense on there too though

Great fun looking watch. I don't have the balls to pull it off myself

Don't think this is who you're after, but worth a look. http://www.rxw.jp/eng/marina.html

Oh excellent, so there is demand for it. Will keep mine crossed too then. Cheers!

Yes, I think you've understood fine. 40mm is smaller than 42, 44 etc (which comprises the majority of the IWC range). Nice one.

Not sure that every member reads every single forum. General and IWC looked like a reasonable net to throw, and doubt it caused anyone any grief. Place isn't that busy. The 42mm is 42mm unfortunately.

Did they even ever rep these? These came out in 2013 and I thought they'd hae been really popular! No dealer I've messaged so far has said they do them. Anyone have one?

Hi all, have been lurking for a while and messaging dealers and haven't been able to find my grail so I thought I'd hassle you all with a thread! I've ordered an Explorer 1 as a sort of consolation prize, but it hasn't stopped me wanting that IWC even though I was told the watch isn't available any more by Toro and Andrew. In general it looks like smaller reps aren't as commonplace. Guess it's a demand/supply issue. So many stunning watches but when you have small wrists you feel a bit sidelined! Buying the real one isn't option right now, were saving for our first house so... Besides, IWC take the P with their pricing IMO! Thanks, and great forum. Been reading member posts for a while now