Dan71

After some search i discovered on "rolexforum" that the cartel bracelet is similar to the "newer 93150 bracelet has the wedge shaped center link and it is notched. http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=286636 so isn't necessary modded the final connecting link..

Ok, but i can't understand how are connect the endlink on the bracelet..maybe your isn't a 93150 ? my is hollow is that in the pic

I have the hollow link in excess! so do you mean that i have to cut in the middle of the rear side of this link and folded it like the final connection: recreate the bend in wich pass trough springbar ? But i need special tool and manual skill for this work ? Do you have same pics of your work?

Hi, as do you know, the cartel bracelet 93150 have a flaws on final connecting link , the line engraved on it ( see pic.1) where i can find a final connecting link without this line engraved ( see gen bracelet pic.2 ) ? Obviously i can't ask to AD because i have to show them an original 93150..otherwise they call and if i polished it until it disappear ? maybe the steel came too mach thin and weak ?

anyone have try this bezel assembly on cartel watch ? like suggested by whoopy12 ? see link above .

@Rolojack you are always the TOP !

Hi, yesterday i have check a Gen 1680 of my friend, i saw that the endlink are different from my cartel ,the general appearance of gen are more thin , strech out , they have more gracefulness (sorry i can't find the correct word for expalane it ..), the cartel are more short / stubby. And another thing , the gen show a little case part ( the space between the top of the end link and the bezel ,see pics below sample ) the gen 1680 is near Nos so i don't think that the endlink was worn-out by time.. maybe the WSO are Gen spec or are identical to the Cartel one ?

I have improved my experiment with guarantee , not bad for a copy ..now the number reference 'punched' is the same of my watch..

You are right , I thinked that is better looking for a Gen tritium dial , is more expensive but the final esthetically result is what i realy want!

blow the pics ..

Hi , i have found a Gen luminova dial "Swiss" refinished for 330 euro , but i have a doubt about the color.. In is necessary change also the hand and the pearl_insert or i can keep my creamy hand and yuki pearl_insert ? what do you think about the color (pure white) of luminova Dial ? tks

ok tks, but now is more important improve the dial and centered data windows with number.. so the plexi came i second order..maybe i can reinstall the original cartel plexi that i remember is nice..

i'm not expert but maybe the cartel 2813 don't switch with 2836 (different hand pinion ? ) but i have read that the 2813 can switch with myota 8215 ( see Interactive work..)

ok , is a shame.. why you sell the watch? but the fonts was centered in the Data windows ?

Tks loveOldsWacthes I think the same thing..so now your watch is finish ? Please do you have a pics of The dwo centered in the date Windows ? Do you have bought also the silver dwo from peterpark?

sure, another expensive hobby..

ok tsk! i read the link ..i think that maybe the opener have a MBW , and if i correct understand is Gen spec (Gen "dial widow "& Gen "date window") so the Clark plexy don't work .. but also my Cartel watch have a Clark plexi and don't work , so maybe the Cartell have Gen Spec ? but it have Eta movement so the "date window" position should be different.. the only solution should be buy 2 dial from Yuki ( one for gen 1570 movement and one for eta 2836 ) choose the better one and sell the other . but in this way i spend twice money

Hi, i read a lot here and in other forum and i asked mp to some kindly member, but i have yet a doubt I want improve the dial of my 1680 Perfect Clones with a Yuki_Eta_2836 or Yuki_Spec_1570 ( or a RLX_GEN if i have budget..). I have read that the Cartel dial diameter is 26,2mm and the Yuki ( and Gen ) is 26,5, so i have to mill/shave the dial_seat_rehault for .3mm. Now my doubt is about the Date Window.. My clark plexi ( that i think is for Gen-Spec ) il too far right ( see yellow arrow in the pics) so i think that a Yuki_Spec_1570 ( or RLX_GEN) will be too far right for my Cartel DWO. In other word , i not understand if the Yuki_Spec_1570 ( or RLX_GEN) have the Date Window too on the right so it cut the left of the font/Number and for example if today data is "25" i can se only the "5" , or if is the opposite and the Date Window cut the font on the right so i read only "2". Maybe i have to change the DWO with this Silver DWO cityweekender/peter park ? or i have to buy another DWO , but which one ? http://www.ebay.com/itm/ETA-movement-part-date-disc-silver-2824-2836-2893-rolex-oyster-date-/121976006293?hash=item1c66562695:g:jSAAAOSwQItTy1X8 Or best solution, is buy a Yuki_Dial_Eta_2836 so the Date Windows is on the correct position for my 2836 DWO ? thanks for your support

@tanaris , i have also a 1680 perfect clones and I'm thinking to improve the dial with yuki or gen.. than do you have change the dial ?

Hi ! here my little project .. watch rlx 1680 from josh (perfect clones) asian 2836 , than my watchsmith switched with Eta 2846 low beat i sent it to RolexAddict for the base mod (CG, dial lume, fade insert, springbar, clark plexi, yuki insert), but than i shipped to RA for mod crown & tube with athaya. in the pics we have also : - paper, bill ecc by Rolojack - only the garantie & calendar is my experiment.. -gen service box from ebay -gen leather wallet from ebay maybe in the future i will improve the watch, but for the moment i will stop here .. what do you think ? i forgot ..this was the previous owner.. see on the wrist..

Thank you blix ! But i have finded in italy a 2846 for 60€ shipped.. I forgot: and it is perfect compatibile with 2836 !

Possibile, but then i have switch with a Clark plexi but it don't solved the problem.. I think that there is an error about diameter tollerance..

Hi, than i have found a solution for the bezel that pop up easly .. I have put a very little drop of glue for steel inside the bezel assembly. I wait that the glue was dry and than i push it on his place. Now it is tight and don't pop up , and If i want i can rotate the bezel (but is better don't exceed and challenge the luky ...)

@kime link http://rwg.cc/topic/183042-vintage-rolex-5512-5513-5514-1680-red-or-white