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Admin, you should organize a watch shopping tour to HK some day, I'd definately be in for that.

That would be so cool.

First RWG GTG in HK

That looks very good on you - so it is comfortable?

Also, now that I think more about it, a more precise way of putting it - is the 196 noticeably heavier than other non-chrono 44mm Pams? (question directed to everyone, not just Tikerz)

Hi, everyone - I hope you are having a nice weekend.

I am thinking of getting a Pam 196 Daylight on leather strap, such a beutiful watch. It wuld be my first 44mm Pam, it's really the only 44mm I want.

But is it a very heavy watch? I've got a skinny (6.5") wrist, and I wear some heavy reps, a 42mm Breit Crosswind comes to mind.

I just got a pre-owned 168 Regatta which I really love, but it is pretty heavy for a 40mm, I am surprised.

I know this "very heavy" question is subjective, but, I'd appreciate any advice before I make a $700 mistake

Thanks very much!

Hi, guys - every time I log on to TRC I get the same message - the problems with TRC have been resolved, the database is being re-built and it will be back online in 24 hours. I've gotten this message for 3 days now.

Is is still down or am I missing something?

Thanks!

Hi, everyone - hope you're having a good day.

I'm thinking of getting my 1st 44mm Pam - a Daylight chrono with black dial.

I've searched the forum but am not getting the info I'd like.

Can anyone tell me what the upgrades and differences are between the 2005 196 Daylight amnd the new 2006 250 Daylight?

Thanks very much!

Wow, 2 months eh? Good for you.

I know you will be looking for decent AP RO reps for yourself, I would be interested in one of whatever you find. I know you are very discriminating.

Have a great time.

I found the link for this 2893 discussion:

http://replica-watch.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1135&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=2893&start=15

Something about the way the hands are attached to the movement and indexed, if not done with some skill, per Zig, you have problems.

So it's not the movement of course. it's the hands installation. And we all know what high level of skill is employed in the assembly of our reps.

Well, you obtain a straight on shot of the watch from the Net or a catalogue, then you need a ruler with metric scale (mm.).

Measure the case diameter of your shot and see if it's bigger or smaller than 44mm.

Hopefully it won't be too far off. Then you do some basic calculating - begin with 4.5 mm is about 10% of 44 mm. as your basic unit.

So if your original is say, 46mm in diameter, you have to decrease the image size to 44mm, 2 mm less. So set your copier to 95%, and your copy should be 44mm case size.

You'll probably have to screw around with it a bit to get it to right size, but it's not so bad.

Another way of wasting company time on our wonderful hobby

Thanks for your responses.

Now I remember reading that EL says the 2893 movement is somewhat problematic, he's had more than a few sent back for repair, difficult to repair too. EL said the 2836 is a real workhorse, and more stable.

That has me a bit skittish, the 2893 version is pretty expensive.

Actually, I don't really need a GMT with a true 2nd timezone, maybe I shoud get it with the 2836 instead?

Thanks for the resposes, guys.

I just checked Josh and Ms King's websites and they both offer Pam GMTs with the 2893 movements.

So I am a bit confused.

Please pardon my ignorance.

I'm thinking of getting a Pam GM, preferably with the 2893 movement.

Are they still in production, I read somewhere Eddie Lee saying they are going out of production, but I see dealers currently offering them with this movement.

So what's the story?

Thanks much for responding!

OK, another contest - how about some wrist shots of the 212 on skinny wrists?

I think it's hard to stop buying, after all, as long as you participate in the forums, eventually a watch will come along that you just have to have.

Also, I find that for myself, if I haven't bought a rep for a few months, I start to get antsy, like "I need to buy a rep soon" feeling. I start to consider watches that didn't interest me before. Most of the time I talk myself out of it, realizing I want to buy something just for the thrill, but will have buyers remorse once I get it.

Mikellem, thank you for the encouragement and helping to empty my wallet

The other Pam I think I would like is the GMT, I like the busier dials.

Does anyone know if the Pam GMT is available with 2893 movement or am I too late to the party?

Well, since you were brave enough to post a wrist shot - I think that 44mm tantalium looks good on you. The lugs pretty much go to the edges of your wrist, but you can see some bracelet links too on the sides, which is good.

A 47mm will definately go beyond the edges of your wrist, the lugs will hang over past your wrist, not good look I'm afraid, but that's my personal opinion.

Be happy you can pull off the 44mm.

And Orlando's wrist is not so skinny, if I remember correctly, he was wearing a 44mm Pam and it fit him appropriately.

Try the correct size xerox method, I've got a bunch of these sitting in a pile in my offfice. The cleaning lady must think I'm weird, I'm sure.

Yes, what RT said.

I too have a 6.5" wrist, but in cross-section it's narrow and deep, not flat and wide. That makes all the difference. 6.5' flat and wide you can get away with.

I've tried on genuine 44mm Pams about 5 times, trying to talk myself into it. They look really big on me, cover my entire wrist.

That said, I now find myself thinking about getting the 196 Daylight, it is such a beautiful watch and I don't have a single Pam. I am slowly breaking down, in spite of its size.

Just trying to rationalize spending $700 on the better chrono movement.

I really don't think you will be able to carry off the 47mm size, sorry. My personal opinion, there is a limit as to what looks good on a wrist, and what looks weird.

But as you can see in my situation, one can talk oneself into most anything.

Make a xerox of the Pam you want in the correct sizxe, cut it out and put it on your wrist, it will give you an idea how it will look. I do this all the time.

Whatever happened to the MBW prototype of the AP RO chrono that made a brief appearance a good 2 years ago?

I think he actually had a few for sale but then it completely dropped off the radar. It was a pretty expensive rep.

Welcome, Mike and Jody

Hope you like ths place.

Ahem (wee voice in the wilderness) I'm a woman, been on the forums for 3 years, haven't been driven off the forums yet. Gotten close, but that's because of the obsession with Pams (really boring). I really love watches and reps, I've got over 30 of 'em, and I'm not going away any time soon.

I just ignore the avatars and photos of near naked girls, I find it kind of silly and juvenile, if you want to know the truth. To me, a person who feels compelled to post this type of thing seems to have some kind of need to prove something, to impress. The cool guys I know and like would never do this, they don't need to.

The only practical comment I would like to make is that when you are at work and want to check into the forums, having these avatars and photos come up on your screen is not cool.

The only chronographs that can be taken into water are those with screw down pushers, in other words, the pushers have a metal collar around them that you can tighten down. Chronos with regular pushers were not meant to be taken into water. That holds true for the genuines. I don't know if I would risk taking a rep chrono with screw down pushers swimming unless I had it waterproofed by a trusted watchmaker.

There are no ladies sized chronographs with screw down pushers, but the rep Daytona is not too big, and can be considerred unisex.

I don't care for the white dial, a bit too vanilla for me.

This is a situation where a majority of people are quite happy with the rep as is, obviously.

If this was an SD or even better, a Pam, we would have v2 with a better rehaut out next week. Oh well.

To me it looks like contact dermatitiis, because of the blistering and how localized it appears.

You may be having a (GASP!) allergic reaction to you Pam.

You poor guy.

Well no, I don't think I'm being too tough at all. This design flaw is on the face of the dial, and I would see it every time I glance at my watch, if it was a detail on the back of the case I really wouldn't give a s**t.

It bothers me enough, and it bothers hk45ca also. I'm going to think about this one a bit.

Thanks for your responses, guys.

I am still not completely sold on it, that wide inner bezel does bug me, it is much wider than the gen.

I doubt if they will correct it.

Um, sorry I misled you Clive. I know about your fondness for GMTs.

Of course I meant GT, silly me.

Anyway, so what about that wide inner bezel?

Does it look that bad?