ubiquitous Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 DW: Genuine: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlaletom Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 (edited) imo the diference is quite obvious .... It's not "that" close ... let's play the "difference game" the font on the tachymeter for example and even the general aspect of the stell polish. the second hand color ... the lume aging on the rep is over-exagerated as often, but the white part of the dial aren't aged enough the daytona red color (but that could be a ligthening matter) i'm shure somone more familiar with vintage daytonas can find more ho i olmost forget. Still very nice for a rep ...wich is after all ...a rep. Edited March 20, 2006 by vlaletom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the collector Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 @Nanuq, where do you think the price on the silver dials is going to be roughly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlaletom Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 @vlaletom You have a good eye. Okay the crown is a bit off on these... we're working on that. But there's one more TINY difference you missed. I believe it will be corrected on the silver dial version. Can you find it? It's tough to spot at that angle. damn i am searching ... When you say "we're working on it" do you mean those are still produced i was on the impression that DW vintage were not avalaible anymore ... Cause if "that" is is still worked on, it's going to be really damn close !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted March 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 For a 1:1 comparison of this specific genuine, the 'flaws' pointed out would be correct. However, as there many variations with genuine parts, the following are not necessarily incorrect: tachymeter font- I've seen at least 3 variations on the 6265 bezel. Some are original issue, some are service replacements. center seconds color- The standard black dial 6263/5 can have either silver or black with contrasting arrow tip. 'DAYTONA' font color- depends on which manufacturer the dial originated from. Some may also be faded from age/sun/elements as well. With regards to polishing- Cases can be worn down from inproper case refinishing, etc. Lume aging is done by me. None the less, you have a very observant eye imo the diference is quite obvious .... It's not "that" close ... let's play the "difference game" the font on the tachymeter for example and even the general aspect of the stell polish. the second hand color ... the lume aging on the rep is over-exagerated as often, but the white part of the dial aren't aged enough the daytona red color (but that could be a ligthening matter) i'm shure somone more familiar with vintage daytonas can find more ho i olmost forget. Still very nice for a rep ...wich is after all ...a rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlaletom Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Actually the lume aging is only exagerated in regards of the other parts of the dial ... On lesser quality vintage rep that often the problem (not to speack of those who just apply an horible lemon yelow color). You could soften a bit the ageing, as the rest of the watch is suposely "very well" preserved or why not age the whole dial a bit more ... i still dont see that other flow i missed ..somthing with the lume spot at 3&9 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted March 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Here is a hint: 12:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the collector Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 What quantity are we talking about? will there be enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tickertp Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 OK, few more observations: Rep Rolex Crown on dial is a little high. Some reps have lume dot over crown, that's wrong. Gen pushers have little indented ring just below caps, above where the spiral track engages the pushers. (This rep might be ok!) Knurled crown on gen is not quite as large or thick as rep Case lugs on gen get narrower to point than rep Case lugs on gen are slightly rounded on underside. Crimp on link that attaches to springbar is rounder on gen than rep. Caseback is thicker on rep. Rings on inverted piepan of rep subdials are more prominent than on gen. Now we're really on the arcane......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted March 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Rep Rolex Crown on dial is a little high. >>Bingo. Some reps have lume dot over crown, that's wrong. >>Correct, and the DW does not have this lume dot at 12:00 (which is correct). Gen pushers have little indented ring just below caps, above where the spiral track engages the pushers. (This rep might be ok!) >>DW pushers are quite accurate. Knurled crown on gen is not quite as large or thick as rep >>Not a concern- It's an easy swap to replace with a gen Triplock. Case lugs on gen get narrower to point than rep Case lugs on gen are slightly rounded on underside. >>Both of these observations are of an improperly refinished case. Crimp on link that attaches to springbar is rounder on gen than rep. >>Not sure what you're seeing here. Both rep and gen have the last link connecting to the end link as flat links. Caseback is thicker on rep. >>Only on a 7750 based rep. The DWs have casebacks of correct size. Rings on inverted piepan of rep subdials are more prominent than on gen. >>Perhaps... Or, it could just be the photo and lighting. Now we're really on the arcane......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CY0811 Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 ubiquitous and nanug are dead on......the DW is so close it would fool most WIS after mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted March 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 An example of a 6263 with black center seconds hand from a very reputible dealer. Watch Commander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beancounter Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Love it. What movement is going to power this DW? Is this going to have working 60 s/30 m/12 h sub dials? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustybrand Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Love it. What movement is going to power this DW? Is this going to have working 60 s/30 m/12 h sub dials? They already do with the DW 'mystery movement'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 They already do with the DW 'mystery movement'. Nope, the DW movement is a bi-compax. The 12h hands are non-functional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustybrand Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Nope, the DW movement is a bi-compax. The 12h hands are non-functional. Quite right. My mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the collector Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 (edited) Guys what size crown tube does a gen 6263 carry? And does the gen 6263 carry a regular triplock crown, or does it have a special version? Edited March 25, 2006 by the collector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrington Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Nope, the DW movement is a bi-compax. The 12h hands are non-functional. And................The rest of the chrono functions on this movement are crap. So if you manage to get one either stick in a V23 or just don't use them!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 does anyone have a pic of the DW movement? i've been looking all over but couldnt find one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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