pettsson Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Hello!! I have a broken pam! I'd really appreciate if someone could help me with this. So my questions are, Which movement do I have? Which movements works with the case? where do I find the movement that I need? and how do I change it? again I'd really appreciate if someone could help me:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettsson Posted October 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 I think I've posted this thread in the wrong section. Im gonna post it the repair section insted. Sorry about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettsson Posted October 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 or where is this thread best suited to be posted? Im sure you can tell that im new at this haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lf Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 I think the movement is a Chinese Seagull ST25. Check with the usual suspects - JacksonMT, Helenarou, eBay, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteM Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Never understood why some of these were called Open heart. I could only tell if I saw the arm that runs across the incabloc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettsson Posted October 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Never understood why some of these were called Open heart. I could only tell if I saw the arm that runs across the incabloc Thx Pete! any help would be very helpful. I got a few broken Pam reps, from a friend of mine and thought it would be a challenge to fix them. I hope this photo could help you to identify the movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteM Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Dont thank me mate, it was w0lf mate that got you there but now I see that arm. I agree ST25 Heres a pic of the ST25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettsson Posted October 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Dont thank me mate, it was w0lf mate that got you there but now I see that arm. I agree ST25 Heres a pic of the ST25 alright! thax w0lf, n pete! now, Do you think any other movement would fit? something that would last more then a month? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lf Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Pete, They like to skeletonize the top plate and show the balance through the bottom or top cutout in the dial - hence the "open heart moniker". @OP- ST25xx movements are supposedly very reliable and on top of that you wont find another PR module movement cheaply so I think you need to fix or replace this one with the same model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettsson Posted October 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Pete, They like to skeletonize the top plate and show the balance through the bottom or top cutout in the dial - hence the "open heart moniker". @OP- ST25xx movements are supposedly very reliable and on top of that you wont find another PR module movement cheaply so I think you need to fix or replace this one with the same model. thx w0lf! Ive been reading older the past hour posts about this movement and Ive understood that its not that crappy after all.. so Ive been searching for the seagull ST25 on the sites that u mentioned and a few other sites without result. Do you have any other Ideas? and if I do find it, is it possible to change it myself? or is it mission impossible for a newbie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 first, what's wrong with it? When you say it's broken what do you mean? It could be a simple fix depending on the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettsson Posted October 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 first, what's wrong with it? When you say it's broken what do you mean? It could be a simple fix depending on the problem. Im not sure, it just dosny tic. and the reserve needle is off. ( I think you can see it through the glass on the photo I posted) whats the most easy way to find out what the problem is with it? (without me breaking it even more;P) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 the PR indicator is a simple fix. When was the last time it worked? How did it stop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettsson Posted October 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 the PR indicator is a simple fix. When was the last time it worked? How did it stop? i think it was a week ago, ( alittle drunk accident, with watch falling down the floor with the glass down.) and ive been scrwed on the wheel now for a while and it started to tic could it be the automatic part thats broken only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettsson Posted October 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 oh well its not ticing now again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 with a fall, it can be many things. So you tried manually wind it and it worked for a while which means it's probably something to do with power reserve but without servicing it will be impossible to tell. I'm not sure how much a ST25 would cost but you probably will need someone to replace it for you. In terms of cost it may be worth to ask someone to take a look for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettsson Posted October 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 I guess I need a st25 movement.. does anybody know where I can get one? and is there any guide available, on how to change movement anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankt Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 You need the Seagull ST25-30 modular movement.....Just a "ST25" ain't enough!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 The term "Open Heart" means that you can see the balance wheel through a hole in the dial. Fake tourbillion watches are normally just open heart watches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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