slask111 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Hi, It seems that my v.5 PO hit the rocks the other day and the bracelet decided not to work anymore. The pin that is holdning the clasp link together went A-wall. It seems to be a screw in type, and the screw went missing. But i cant se any threads in the pin so im not 100% aboout it. Is there a way to source a new pin so that i can use this watch? Its the asian cheapo movement, so no point buying a new strap thats almost the same price as a whole new watch. Anyone that can help me out i would appriciate it alot. Sry for the english.. it seems that the more time you spend typing in english.. the worse you get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialvat Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I dont think its a screw type, it may just be a pin with flatened ends. Quick fix use a paperclip straighten it and bend edges around so it does not fall thru, not a permanent fix but at least you can wear it while you find a better fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastrmindalliance Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Definitely not a screw in. Just use one of the spares (from the links) you have from sizing the bracelet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slask111 Posted July 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 The pin does have flatened ends, and the pins for the bracelet seems to be straight. So i dont se how i can use a pin from the bracelet. But i will try to use your solution specialvat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastrmindalliance Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 They're only flat once they're pressed in/fitted. My experience is only with the UPO but i assure you, on the upo, they are one in the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slask111 Posted July 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Hmm it seems that the original pin for the clasp is not long enough to bend. On the attached picture the pin is inserted. On a general note, im not impressed by the pins for this bracelet. The pins is not secure enough, if feels like they are going to fall out any second. I guess epoxy is your friend in this case.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slask111 Posted July 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Dont know mastermindalliance. I will look at all the spare pins i have for this PO tomorrow. But to me it looks like the pin for the clasp is flattened but the ones one the bracelet is not. I dont se how it should get flattened when it is fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastrmindalliance Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Hehe, with a jewellers hammer i expect. The problem with using a paperclip is that it will rust. You're right though, the pins on PO bracelet are junk, in fact the PO bracelets in general are. I've had to use locktite just to keep links with no showing pins together. The good thing is the locktite works very well. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slask111 Posted July 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Hehe ok thnx for the info. I will try with epoxy/locktite for the bracelet and wait and se if someone has a spare pin or something. Otherwise this is going to the sales section... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP8 Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Had the same problem with one of mine. Sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 When you compress the end of something to make it flatten out or mushroom, it's called swaging. The pin is swaged by a swaging tool. (sway-j) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slask111 Posted July 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Had the same problem with one of mine. Sucks. Were you able to sort it? Swaging tool? Maybe you can use a pin and use that tool on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Basically, a hand-operated press (like super pliers) that compresses both ends of the pin at once to create the little mushroom heads. I suppose the one they use in the factory is custom built for this purpose. Have you considered asking in the "Want to buy" section for someone's spare clasp? I'm sure there are people who use a rubber strap instead of their bracelet OR just have a broken PO laying around in a drawer. WHO990 sells sterile clasps on eBay ... or you could buy a gen clasp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slask111 Posted July 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Jkay thnx for the hints. A new post in WTB section is made. Woho post 301, well 302. Im WIS now ;p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra8272 Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Hi I think i read somewhere that there should be a tube that slides into the link then the pin is driven in to the tube - almost a 3 part connection. Try searching for PO bracelet adjustment or similar. But from what i've read the Rep PO bracelets are not too good. Hope this may help Cobra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 The bracelets come up for sale from time to time on the rep forums..I bought a second one that way. Also they look nice on a Nato! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slask111 Posted July 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 I might have a SS strap on the way, i posted on the I want to buy forum and it gave result. Thank god for all the nice members here! But i agree, the SS on the PO sucks. Locktight is the only way to go. Just another reason to get the gen. The nato looks great woof! But i just love the SS around my wrist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastrmindalliance Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Had to come back and correct myself. I have two UPOs. I was just refitting a bracelet on my pumpkin and noticed a difference between my other one that i was talking about above^^ . On the pumpkin bracelet the clasp pin you're referring to is indeed swagged, The other one is not, it's just a regular regular bracelet tube and pin. Dont know if this is factory revision or user mod as i bought the non-swagged one from a user not new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slask111 Posted July 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Wouldnt suprice me that they make diff versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracyl Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) Were you able to sort it? Swaging tool? Maybe you can use a pin and use that tool on it? I had the exact same problem on mine too. But it is not a pin that is swaged. Here is a link to the item you need. I haven't got mine yet, but any day now. I measured the pin with calipers and it came in at 1mm. The length is about 16mm so I ordered this part: Watch Band Pins Be sure to call them and place the order over the phone so you don't get charged $15 for shipping. Name of the company is Cas-Ker Company. It is item sku# 900.010. Edited July 28, 2011 by Tracyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracyl Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 Update: Don't buy this product! It is the wrong size! I got these pins in today and they are 1.09mm thick and not 1mm as advertised. I'll be returning them. Also, found out you really need a 13mm long bar and not 16. Probably the 12mm would work if the bars were actually 1mm as advertised. Guess I need to keep looking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracyl Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Update: Don't buy this product! It is the wrong size! I got these pins in today and they are 1.09mm thick and not 1mm as advertised. I'll be returning them. Also, found out you really need a 13mm long bar and not 16. Probably the 12mm would work if the bars were actually 1mm as advertised. Guess I need to keep looking! Update: I gave up looking for a pin and went to my watchsmith. He added a 1.1mm pin(don't know how he made it fit)but is took all of 5 min, and he said it is friction fit, and will never come out. Just a solid SS pin that is 1.1mm. He hammered it in using a jewelers hammer on a small steel block. It was amazing watching him work. He then sanded the ends to round them over, then polished them on a polishing wheel. Looks brand new! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 congratulations on your successful repair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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