the collector Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-ROLEX-DAYTONA-...1QQcmdZViewItem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 whats a real 6263 worth anyway? Last time I saw one on ebay, it had a buy-it-now price of about 60.000$. I recently saw one for sale HERE for 19.000Euros, and this watch had been fully serviced by wempe a few months ago for 1.5k! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the collector Posted October 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 I would say from 20 upward dpending on the condition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 The dial looks like it comes from Timeman (has the same "Nanuq" font error as mine). Engraving looks like it was done by hand. The bridge is incorrect for a 727 movement. Overall, not bad looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the collector Posted October 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 The funny thing is that he ships it for $35 and adds that his responsibilities end after he has emailed the tracking number.... Is that the right way to ship a 30 000USD Watch?????? @Avitt, pretty nice, im not so sure about the engravings and the caseback though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Any guesses on where this will close? I say between $8k and $12k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the collector Posted October 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Ouch.... i really dont even want to guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the collector Posted October 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Funny, i just read the describtion of the watch, it says thath the case, dial and bezel are aftermarket.... This is going to be very interesting to follow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 I'm going to guess closer to $2k - $3k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the collector Posted October 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 As he states that the case, dial and bezel are aftermarket i do not think that the final price will be over 4000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Hey Bob- This is the most recent DW I had in my hands. What do you think of the dial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 I just ordered a silver dial from DW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Well... There are a few things that should probably be explained... The concentric rings and radial sunburst finish of the dial were washed out when I eliminated the noise from the pic They are there... The crown is situated much lower than the v1.0 dials... Everything else you pointed out is as you see it. Perhaps the new owner will post some pics of it (which should be better than mine) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Ever try to explain "non-proportional" to someone with limited English skills? Hell... I don't even understand what you mean... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 You've got some serious patience to have made it that far on the project. Aside from the dial feet being in the wrong position, I found David's silver dial unacceptable because of 1) the weak radial brush marks, 2) the weak concentric effect on the subdials, but worst was 3) the thick, glossy lacquer finish. For my 6265 (currently at my watchmaker for a VJ72 overhaul) I selected the Timeman silver dial. It does have the font errors, but intitial visual impact was much better than David's. Yesterday, DW told me that his latest dials (with corrected feet) are currently in production, and should be shipping soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Personally, I still prefer DW's v1.0 dials... Even with the incorrect coronet position, they were far better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torques Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-ROLEX-DAYTONA-...1QQcmdZViewItem I'm a watch noob but with all that aftermarket stuff, isn't it like trying sell a 69 Boss 429 with a replaced body and roof and other stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torques Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 It's a bit more like taking a fastback Muskrat and cutting in new side quarter windows, dropping in a Hypo 289, putting on some stripes and calling it a Shelby. Sure, it LOOKS like a Shelby, but it ain't. Affirmative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 I'm wondering when someone starts to sell an aftermarket PAM111 with aftermarket case, dial, hands, crown, movement, strap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torques Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 I'm wondering when someone starts to sell an aftermarket PAM111 with aftermarket case, dial, hands, crown, movement, strap ROFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 btw. is that movement really a rolex 727? it looks different from what I know. But it could just be the very poor pictures! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 It could be a 727, but not Rolex. Gears are the wrong color, and as mentioned, the bridge is not correct. A few other watch firms used the 727 in the 60's such as Girard Perregaux, or it could just be a good engraving job. www.doubleredseadweller.com/ has a blurb on the fake Daytonas, of which this is clearly one. But at least the guy tells you aftermarket case, dial, etc. so you can decide if it's worth it to you to bid. You'd spend at least $1000-1500 and up putting one of these together yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 I don't see a microstella balance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 I'm wondering when someone starts to sell an aftermarket PAM111 with aftermarket case, dial, hands, crown, movement, strap If the PAM111 was 30 years out of production, and it remained the most desireable production timepiece ever produced by Panerai, and Panerai was as popular as Rolex, and it sold for $30-60,000...then you might actually see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 It could be a 727, but not Rolex. Gears are the wrong color, and as mentioned, the bridge is not correct. A few other watch firms used the 727 in the 60's such as Girard Perregaux, or it could just be a good engraving job. www.doubleredseadweller.com/ has a blurb on the fake Daytonas, of which this is clearly one. But at least the guy tells you aftermarket case, dial, etc. so you can decide if it's worth it to you to bid. You'd spend at least $1000-1500 and up putting one of these together yourself. The seller actually states that it's a VJ72 movement, engraved with "727"...I took that to mean exactly that. You are right about the cost to build one yourself, although I think the movements alone are now drawing almost $1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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