Ephry73 Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 I want to know if with all of awesome knowledge existing here about rolex and Tudor gens and replicas, if there is a movement that can be used as the 390 or similar to the 390 for an early Tudor sub project. Thanks in advanced. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 I'm not your expert ...but did you see that gen Tudor 390 with vintage dial for 450$ the other day at Vrf? I fretted over buying it for five minutes too long and it was gone That would have been easy to make a killer franken! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Yup!. There was a movement on fleabay that I was watching and it disapeared. The dial I have would be lovely with the case I'm working on and a gen movement and hands for authenticity. This is for that 5514/Tudor hybrid fantasy watch. I was looking at Omega movements Caliber 360 but I am pretty sure that these are not compatible. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 The tudor 390 is a 12.5 ligne FEF (Fleurier Ebauche Factory) 380/390 base movement and is known to be an Ok base movement but with a troublesome autowind assembly (I do not know if this a/w assembly is exclusive to tudor or not). For this reason, autowind parts are very hard to find so if you buy a movement needing parts, it can be an expensive project. Some 'rolexperts' claim the tudor 390 can use parts from a rolex 1030...I seriously doubt anything will interchange. My guess is the cost of a Yuki etc 5513/1680 case/dial with rolex 1520/1575 would not be much more than a Yuki etc tudor case/dial with a tudor 390 needing a few parts. Tudor projects with an Eta 24xx/28xx cost much less to put together. I had a 390 autowind assembly in my watchjunk but have not seen it since I moved my shop in 1997. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 The tudor 390 is a 12.5 ligne FEF (Fleurier Ebauche Factory) 380/390 base movement and is known to be an Ok base movement but with a troublesome autowind assembly (I do not know if this a/w assembly is exclusive to tudor or not). For this reason, autowind parts are very hard to find so if you buy a movement needing parts, it can be an expensive project. Some 'rolexperts' claim the tudor 390 can use parts from a rolex 1030...I seriously doubt anything will interchange. My guess is the cost of a Yuki etc 5513/1680 case/dial with rolex 1520/1575 would not be much more than a Yuki etc tudor case/dial with a tudor 390 needing a few parts. Tudor projects with an Eta 24xx/28xx cost much less to put together. I had a 390 autowind assembly in my watchjunk but have not seen it since I moved my shop in 1997. On that note, I wonder how the 1030 hands would fit on the 390 movement. I can always just assemble this watch with the 2783/4 movement and use it as is for now and slowly collect the parts for the 390. Not for anybody else but for me. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick1972 Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 On that note, I wonder how the 1030 hands would fit on the 390 movement. I can always just assemble this watch with the 2783/4 movement and use it as is for now and slowly collect the parts for the 390. Not for anybody else but for me. E The second and hour hand wil fit ,the minute not. But if your handy you could enlarge the existing hole. I tried it with my 7924 franken because I liked the big bubble seconds hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Looks really good. Where did you source the hands from? Yuki? I ordered a set of their eta aged/cream hands for the 2783 movements and will use the rose submariner dial with that combo on the 5514 slimmed down case I have. I really like that tudor you have there. What you know need is one of the tropic 17 crystals I have E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick1972 Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 The hands are old ones from CWP. I'm gonna use a superdome 39 for this project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 WOW. I managed to source some service t-19 but the lack of dome sort of works for me on these older watches. I would love to get one of these cases for an early sub project. It is soooo funny how our taste changes and evolves in watches as you learn a little bit. 390 base plates go for really cheap. How how hard to source, or correctly mate are these parts? Thanks for the input and sharing your project pictures. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick1972 Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 WOW. I managed to source some service t-19 but the lack of dome sort of works for me on these older watches. I would love to get one of these cases for an early sub project. It is soooo funny how our taste changes and evolves in watches as you learn a little bit. 390 base plates go for really cheap. How how hard to source, or correctly mate are these parts? Thanks for the input and sharing your project pictures. E I would search the bay for a movement. The copper colored FEF 390's are not to expensive if you know what to look for. The way I did it, learn about the different Tudor references with a FEF 390 caliber. Search for the tudor ads where the movement is not visible and ask the seller what reference the watch got. There is a Big chance you get a 390 for cheap. The rhodium plated 390's is a different story, they are harder to get and to my knowledge not to be found in regular Tudor's. My 7924 has a rhodium plated FEF 390 caliber. Maybe I have a spare copper colored FEF 390, I will check it tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Thanks for the tips. I have been scouring the net for information to see if I can learn more about this. As I "progress" in this hobby I am getting to appreciate the Tudor early subs more and more. Let me know if you have that E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 One quick question, does anyone know if the FEF 350 is similar to the 390 caliber? If so, this may be another and cheaper alternative. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick1972 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 One quick question, does anyone know if the FEF 350 is similar to the 390 caliber? If so, this may be another and cheaper alternative. E No it's not the same or similar, 390 is 12.5 ligne and a 350 is 10.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 Oh well. I need to hit raffit for cross reference. Thanks Nick. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 I guess a movement ring that can make up the diference in ligne. I keep finding 1030 Caliber movements, I wonder if these could be used. Any updates? E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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