gmtlover Posted December 5, 2011 Report Posted December 5, 2011 Hi, I want to order one of these 2, what do you guys advise? http://www.puretimewatch.com/product/gmt-master-ii-116710-ln-a3186-best-edition/ or http://www.puretimewatch.com/product/gmt-master-ii-116710-ln-with-correct-hand-stack/ One has a CHS movement and the other has better Looks. Please help!
irolexu Posted December 5, 2011 Report Posted December 5, 2011 CHS tend to be time bombs so i would go with the best edition
gmtlover Posted December 5, 2011 Author Report Posted December 5, 2011 won't there be an update anytime soon on the CHS movement that is reliable?
irolexu Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 Even if they have an "update" you still have to see how it does in the long run for example the SA3135 looks promising how ever only time will tell...you really gotta ask yourself...are your friends really gonna know the hand stack order on a GMT?
correctime Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 IMO you should stay away from the CHS mvts.........you could always spring for a 2893...which is a gen. GMT mvt...though you'll still have to live with the ICHS. And keep in mind that with the CHS, the date works off the GMT hand...which isn't cool if you actually "need" the GMT function.....imo
Tiyal Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 I say go for the CHS, then service the movement and get your lume done, It will look great, if the movement dies just step down to ICHS i wish some one would figure out a DIY CHS mod.
irolexu Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 I say go for the CHS, then service the movement and get your lume done, It will look great, if the movement dies just step down to ICHS i wish some one would figure out a DIY CHS mod. This could be a very expensive option if things were to go wrong
gmtlover Posted December 6, 2011 Author Report Posted December 6, 2011 As for my friends noticing, they have a gen GMT so yes they will notice. Unfortunaly the CHS from puretime doesn't have a Ceramic Bezel. Otherwise I would have ordered it today. And $400 incl shipping is a lot for a faulty watch don't you think?
irolexu Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 Agreed. I mean you could always go vintage GMT route. Less questionable but idk how the hand stack order differs on vintage and late model..other wise your gonna have to take a risk if you really want CHS
mikellem Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 Do yourself a favor and stay away from CHS! MM
correctime Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 (edited) It would take some skill but you could always get the more reliable ICHS mvt and switch the hour and GMT hands in the stack by clipping the end and glue them switched around....just a thought. You'd gain the CHS you're after but still have to accept the date working off the GMT hand. IMO it's pretty diffivcult to notice the hand stack without a really close look...but if you plan to take it off your wrist and hand it to someone (who knows the difference) you may as well just spring for a gen...or take your chances with the CHS mvt version. Edited December 6, 2011 by correctime
gmtlover Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Posted December 7, 2011 Thnx for the advise, Where is the best place to buy? Considered that I live in the Netherlands? I was thinking of josh or puretime, josh just seems a bit more expensive around $30-$40 per watch. i will ship via UK to avoid customs
FxrAndy Posted December 7, 2011 Report Posted December 7, 2011 It would take some skill but you could always get the more reliable ICHS mvt and switch the hour and GMT hands in the stack by clipping the end and glue them switched around....just a thought. You'd gain the CHS you're after but still have to accept the date working off the GMT hand. IMO it's pretty diffivcult to notice the hand stack without a really close look...but if you plan to take it off your wrist and hand it to someone (who knows the difference) you may as well just spring for a gen...or take your chances with the CHS mvt version. But then your hour hand would rotate in 24 hours and the GMT hand in 12, your watch would look like it was wrong all the time and your friends would notice that more than an ICHS, go vintage then the 2836 or 2892-2 would be the correct hand stack
irolexu Posted December 7, 2011 Report Posted December 7, 2011 Ya vintage would be a good route there buddy plus..people question a vintage watch a lot less then a modern any day
gmtlover Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) ok thanks! And seller? as I said, josh is $30-$40 more expensive for exactly same watch then pure time Puretime looks fine to me but had a fair bit of negative reviews lately. Edited December 7, 2011 by GMTlover
correctime Posted December 8, 2011 Report Posted December 8, 2011 But then your hour hand would rotate in 24 hours and the GMT hand in 12, your watch would look like it was wrong all the time and your friends would notice that more than an ICHS, go vintage then the 2836 or 2892-2 would be the correct hand stack This is true.
gmtlover Posted December 9, 2011 Author Report Posted December 9, 2011 And the movement of the vintage is reliable?
freddy333 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Posted December 9, 2011 As for my friends noticing, they have a gen GMT so yes they will notice. Unfortunaly the CHS from puretime doesn't have a Ceramic Bezel. Although the CHS version tends to have more problems due to the relocation gearing's poor design, you can improve your long-term chances by not using the GMT function. My CHS came from the initial shipment (3 years ago) & I have never had any problems with it. To the best of my knowledge, the only part that is ceramic on these is the hyperbole that accompanies them.
gmtlover Posted December 9, 2011 Author Report Posted December 9, 2011 Although the CHS version tends to have more problems due to the relocation gearing's poor design, you can improve your long-term changes by not using the GMT function. My CHS came from the initial shipment (3 years ago) & I have never had any problems with it. To the best of my knowledge, the only part that is ceramic on these is the hyperbole that accompanies them. According to Puretime this is just a steel bezel, no ceramic used here. And should a vintage have ceramic bezel? Does the gen have one? I actually don't know this model very well only the current 2011 version since two of my friends have them.
freddy333 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Posted December 9, 2011 The (modern) gen 116710LN has a ceramic bezel insert (the part inside the bezel containing the numbers). Most newbies are not aware that the insert & bezel are separate parts. Ceramic is a modern material & has only been available on Rolex watches for the past few years (no vintage Rolexes have ceramic anything).
gmtlover Posted December 9, 2011 Author Report Posted December 9, 2011 I did know that insert and bezel are separate. but thanks for the advice! Now what rep dealer to choose...
Tiyal Posted December 10, 2011 Report Posted December 10, 2011 pay attention to those dealer reviews!! Pure time (Angus) seems to be falling apart. the $40 is worth the smooth sale!!!
gmtlover Posted December 11, 2011 Author Report Posted December 11, 2011 Not good news, as I was sure about buying a hublot at puretime. No other dealer has this model. But still deciding for a GMT, probably will go for josh or Andrew then
correctime Posted December 11, 2011 Report Posted December 11, 2011 pay attention to those dealer reviews!! Pure time (Angus) seems to be falling apart. the $40 is worth the smooth sale!!! Really...?? That's not good to hear but I for one appreciate that "heads up".
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