klingsor Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 rolex has used simply engraved val 23 for some reference ..... one of these is the ref.3525 "Medical Chronograph" today a good valjoux cal. 23 can be taken for less than 500 rolex has not done any mods for this caliber in the ref 3525 (only the refinishing... ) to make this watch is needed only the brige (if you are an hardcore modder ...... ) and a kit for the case and dial.... does someone know if exists some kit for these very vintage chrono? could we stimulate someone to produce them? perhaps David (DW) can ask to produce this kit i will show under some example....taken from Antiqorum could be a very beatiful rep .... (rep?!?!?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RiverwindMDS Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 very very nice watch, it could be a good franken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klingsor Posted October 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 very very nice watch, it could be a good franken an easy franken if exist the case.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Reminds me of the Mare Nostrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klingsor Posted October 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Reminds me of the Mare Nostrum. ... sure ?!?!? only cause it has two compass.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Yep, the pushers are similar too. Basic layout is there. Did R*l*x make the mare nostrum for the P company ? I am not sure how old it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klingsor Posted October 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Yep, the pushers are similar too. Basic layout is there. Did R*l*x make the mare nostrum for the P company ? I am not sure how old it is. sorry ....i don't think so... .... there are many people who see Pam everywhere .... but sorry i'm not one of these... Panerai "Mare Nostrum" comes from about 1999 the Ref. 3525. was Manufactured from 1939 to about 1960 all the similar reference are Ref. 3484. Manufactured from 1939 to 1949 Ref. 3055, 1930's Ref. 2508,circa 1940 and many other ..... to have a look ...see the Antiquorum web site ..... it's very interesting .... it's an auctions organization ... but you can see all the reference and some story about ..... for rolex http://www.antiquorum.com/watches/rolex/wa...-5400001309.htm for Panerai ......... http://www.antiquorum.com/watches/officine...-5400099102.htm i hope that these links can help all to have some more info (and pics to use to make dial ....... ahahaha) there are many val 23 on ebay ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r11co Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 there are many people who see Pam everywhere .... but sorry i'm not one of these... I find that irritating too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klingsor Posted October 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 I find that irritating too. i'm not irritated but... the intent of topic is speaking about val 23 and a possibility to do some "medical Chronograph" Ref 3525 i 'm wondered that a so easy possibility is not interesting to anyone.... it could be a new "franken" era ....ahahhahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 There was a similar model Rep floating around for a while. Joshua still has it on his site: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klingsor Posted October 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 There was a similar model Rep floating around for a while. Joshua still has it on his site: we are speaking about a val 23 ..... two compass ... the case is similar ...lugs very different...... i'm sure that this replica has a 7750china .... so the back case is "higher" ..... i think that to use this case will be not so simply... and finally will be not so similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrgod Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 This is from Silix, Lemania based... Maybe not a good base for a franken, but interesting to see how the replicamakers have performed in the field of Pre-Daytonas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klingsor Posted October 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 This is from Silix, Lemania based... Maybe not a good base for a franken, but interesting to see how the replicamakers have performed in the field of Pre-Daytonas... it could be interesting to make some measures... i will ask to A & J ... tnk .... the dial is ugly .... but it's a good starting ...lugs are not similar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 sorry ....i don't think so... .... there are many people who see Pam everywhere .... but sorry i'm not one of these... Panerai "Mare Nostrum" comes from about 1999 the Ref. 3525. was Manufactured from 1939 to about 1960 In that case the Mare Nostrum is "inspired" by this perhaps ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klingsor Posted October 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 In that case the Mare Nostrum is "inspired" by this perhaps ? as many others.... but why pam as a so important space in your mind? if it's enough to have two pushers and two compass to have inspired pam "Mare Nostrum " i think that was many inspirations .... and so Mare Nostrum is not so original designed..... i can understand you are in love with Mare Nostrum .... but if every time you see two pushers and two compass you remember Mare Nostrum it's time for you to buy it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addingwatch Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 It is amazing how every topic gets made into a Pam topic. Anyways, your project idea can definitely be done. First you need a custom case. Rep cases are too big. Your watch is only supposed to be 35mm. Next, the val. 23, but remember the Rolex plate. The most important part, high quality dials for it are available on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-OYSTER-CHRONOGRA...VQQcmdZViewItem Buy the hands, crystal, put it together and you will have a beautiful watch. Or, you can just pay $28K for a real one. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klingsor Posted October 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 It is amazing how every topic gets made into a Pam topic. Anyways, your project idea can definitely be done. First you need a custom case. Rep cases are too big. Your watch is only supposed to be 35mm. Next, the val. 23, but remember the Rolex plate. The most important part, high quality dials for it are available on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-OYSTER-CHRONOGRA...VQQcmdZViewItem Buy the hands, crystal, put it together and you will have a beautiful watch. Or, you can just pay $28K for a real one. Regards. at this point to have the val 23 is the easiest thing i think that a custom made case is a not simply to make... dial ...bridge...hands are on ebay ...sometime..... but a custom made case..... where i can find one to copy it? i could use one like model to do a rep made by gold.... with a fusion stamp... and a refinishing (?!?!?).... are your photo of one of yours watch ? i'm asking arround but no one have never seen a case for this reference..... it's a big problem..... but as i told before ...could be a new era of franken .... most of all the movement has not important modification by rolex ....only the brige to replace.... could be very interesting..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addingwatch Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Yes, the picture is of my watch. I bought it a little while back. I bought it as a complete watch, don't know about the authenticity. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klingsor Posted October 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Yes, the picture is of my watch. I bought it a little while back. I bought it as a complete watch, don't know about the authenticity. Regards. PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlaletom Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 Those watch are beautiful. And as you said the V23 are widly avaulable and still on a decent budget. I olso think there is a nice little market for a good case & dial kit, i would jump in! Maybe if we are enough to ask for it, some of our trusted dealers could produce a batch. Some of our dealer did make custom watch for us in the past, if we are over 50 piece wouldn't it be possible to have some produced ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klingsor Posted November 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 Those watch are beautiful. And as you said the V23 are widly avaulable and still on a decent budget. I olso think there is a nice little market for a good case & dial kit, i would jump in! Maybe if we are enough to ask for it, some of our trusted dealers could produce a batch. Some of our dealer did make custom watch for us in the past, if we are over 50 piece wouldn't it be possible to have some produced ? if you know the way ask for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 there are many people who see Pam everywhere .... but sorry i'm not one of these... That Rolex is a beautiful timepiece. But personally I find it easier to count the pulsations on 30 secs on my PAM and then multiplying it by 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klingsor Posted November 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 That Rolex is a beautiful timepiece. But personally I find it easier to count the pulsations on 30 secs on my PAM and then multiplying it by 2. de gustibus non disputandum est sed rolex"medical Chronograph" Ref 3525 for you and all the others who are speaking about PAM here .... you are all OT ... i don't care yours opinions about PAM.... if i want to speak about pam i will do a topic for this... after that i think that many people want to bring interest in pam... "the easiest watch to copy in the world" .... FINALLY ALL THE PAM INTRUSION DRIVE ME TO TELL: I DON'T LIKE PAM .... PAM ARE FOR SILVESTER STALLONE ..... ! HAHAHAHAHAH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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