Jkay Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 So I looked at Josh's site today, and see a new open pre-order for the 4000M ... this must be the 4th version in the last 6 months, including the "lite" version, of course. Does anyone have info on this new piece? I've been thinking about picking one up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 that's the best one yet. Crystal is correct hight, He valve is finally correct. The only issue is the weird mismatch lume. You may need to relume the dial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted January 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 that's the best one yet. Crystal is correct hight, He valve is finally correct. The only issue is the weird mismatch lume. You may need to relume the dial. Thanks for the professional opinion. I am not confronted by lume. It's changeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADRED7 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 This version will be a so called ULTIMATE..... crown shorter case higher bezel higher crystal correct caseback adjusted The "mismatched" lume seems to be like gen....but can also be the lightning. I am on the fence for this one and will decide end of Jan. Theo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 The "mismatched" lume seems to be like gen....but can also be the lightning. believe me, it's not. I agree it could be lightning but even on the video it looks odd. The gen is all green lume, no yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 I am assuming it will require a relume. I love it but can't figure out whether I can possibly wear it. That is huge, Cool but huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADRED7 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 We will see when released.....and Josh, if you read this, please double-check the lume again....make it all green! Theo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Do you have a link to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 plus the caseback is correct on this one too. That's a biggie because the old one is totally wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted January 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Do you have a link to this? Josh has a new release announcer pop-up on his site. If you just go there, the new releases are shoved into your face. You cant miss it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duvaz Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Frankly speaking if you plan on getting the Hublot 4000m Oceanographic. One thing to really look our for is the water proofing, pray hard that there is extra work done to ensure that water do not get in. Just got mine from King, good communication and such however waterproofing was still an issue even though King promised to get it tested personally. Got it all fogged up after bathing while having it on. So I sincerely hope that the new version has that issue sorted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Unfortunately all the the things that make this a dive watch -:cheesy: he valve, inner bezel rotating button, etc. are exactly the things that make a rep not waterproof. :bangin:to actually take this one swimming will require some real checking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fischyyy Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 to actually take this one swimming will require some real checking. Absolutely right. Nothing worse than sitting at the pool with your 4000m deep-dive watch and you have to take it off before jumping in while your friends with a gen seiko or explorer are swimming happily. Or if you jump in without properly checking and waterproofing it and end up having a damaged watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duvaz Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) Yeah got to agree with Watchmeister, its all the extra features of the dive watch that makes it harder to waterproof. So a lesson learnt here is to get a rep that is simple without extra features. Something like the standard HBB will be a safe bet i guess. Oh and the watch glass is easily scratched. Don't think you can even call them crystals. Edited January 22, 2012 by duvaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted January 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 You simply have to know the tricks to waterproof a troublesome design; like dripping epoxy into the inside of a bad replica HeV. If it can accept gen parts like the PO reps, then you have even more choices to make a rep watertight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 I never seen one in the wild but supposedly it is a working He valve so you would definitely want to try and preserve it by pressure testing the case. At least that is my plan when I finally give in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Yeah got to agree with Watchmeister, its all the extra features of the dive watch that makes it harder to waterproof. So a lesson learnt here is to get a rep that is simple without extra features. Something like the standard HBB will be a safe bet i guess. Oh and the watch glass is easily scratched. Don't think you can even call them crystals. Actually the HBBs are HORRIBLE for water resistance. You will never be able to secure the chrono pushers and the fact the crown is not screw in make it for a very bad choice. You simply have to know the tricks to waterproof a troublesome design; like dripping epoxy into the inside of a bad replica HeV. If it can accept gen parts like the PO reps, then you have even more choices to make a rep watertight. That is correct but quite frankly unless you are a professional diver (and by professional I mean most of your dives are decompression dives) you will NEVER need a working HE valve (and if you are professional you would never depend on a replica anyway). I think many reps can be made water resistent to at least 5 ATM (which is PLENTY for the casual swimmer). Even if you are a recreational diver you will always be above 60 feet anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted January 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 I wonder why the Factories would bother to use a 7750 in a 3-handed watch like the 4000 or the Mille Miglia .... why not a 2824 clone ? Is it the position of the date window? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted January 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Oh and the watch glass is easily scratched. Don't think you can even call them crystals. Sapphire crystal can almost not be scratched at all. I am not sure what you are trying to say here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 I wonder why the Factories would bother to use a 7750 in a 3-handed watch like the 4000 or the Mille Miglia .... why not a 2824 clone ? Is it the position of the date window? I believe so. Those cases are way too big for the 2824, so movement rings, stems, all those things would get in the way. And it's not like the A7750 is that expensive for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duvaz Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Sapphire crystal can almost not be scratched at all. I am not sure what you are trying to say here. Yeah Sapphire Crystals are not supposed to be scratched however mine has. So it makes me wonder if the ones i am having one my rep now are real Sapphire Crystals like what the vendor claims to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Yeah Sapphire Crystals are not supposed to be scratched however mine has. So it makes me wonder if the ones i am having one my rep now are real Sapphire Crystals like what the vendor claims to be. what model? And are you sure it's not the AR that's scratched? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I am with TX. If the crystal is actually sapphire they are fairly resistant to scratches . So unless you purposely tried to scratch it with a knife the crystal may well be mineral glass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duvaz Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 http://www.kingshowbox.com/goods.php?id=6603 I bought this exact model. So I guessed its Sapphire Crystal as per claimed. Well it could be the AR... If I can get good pictures that are clear enough to show the scratches I will post them here and hope you gurus can enlighten me. Apart from scratches there are patches on them as well, like un-removable water marks. Tried cleaning them of but .... Nah it doesn't work . PS: Even though this watch is flawed ! I still can't bear to scratch it with a knife ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted January 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Abused AR coating can look like permanent water marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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