Help with unknown pam!

[piskopow]

Hi all,

got an panerai from a friend whose children had dropped it no idea which model it is.

also, if some one knows what movement it has? prolly need to swap it.

one of the lug screws is stuck and i can't get it out, someone mentioned springbars but its a no go with this bracelet. any ideas?

pics.

[StormTooper4]

HHHHMMMM its might be a fantasy with that waffle dial.... I cant find it

The closest would be the 090

The new one

http://www.1-pc8838.com/pn090i01-090i-ssru-a7750-p-11547.html

http://vimeo.com/32379096

The old one with the A21j movement

http://www.1-pc8838.com/pn09002-bracelet-working-power-reserve-p-399.html

[poretl]

Panerai 241. Is it 40mm? The case on yours doesn't look brushed? Is it?

And from the replica world here it is:

http://www.e-valueshop.com/store/officine-panerai/swiss-officine-panerai/pam241-luminor-panerai-regatta-pam241-power-reserve-swiss-automatic/prod_851.html

It's with the bracelet too.

Edited January 19, 2012 by poretl

[piskopow]

it's 44mm wo crownguard, also it isn't brushed its polished(not really anymore).

also it has see-thru caseback... hmmm, wierd model.

anyone know the movement, it really needs a new one. or an substitute

thanks so far

[poretl]

it's 44mm wo crownguard, also it isn't brushed its polished(not really anymore).

also it has see-thru caseback... hmmm, wierd model.

anyone know the movement, it really needs a new one. or an substitute

thanks so far

where is the see-thru caseback? Have pics? What does it say on it?

[mikellem]

it's 44mm wo crownguard, also it isn't brushed its polished(not really anymore).

also it has see-thru caseback... hmmm, wierd model.

anyone know the movement, it really needs a new one. or an substitute

thanks so far

You say it's w/o crown guard.. I see a crown guard unless I am missing something here!

MM

[poretl]

1. Can you show the caseback? You say it's transparent but I don't see it.

2. In your pics I see C/G. Why are you saying there is not one?

3. The gen pic I posted is the 241. Unfortunately the rep oneI posted is not. The hands are different. So far the only difference I see between yours and the 241 is none unless the caseback is indeed transparent. Can you double check and also post pics or say what it says on it.

Edited January 19, 2012 by poretl

[piskopow]

im sorry, ofc it has an CG, i just meant that the case is 44mm without measuring the CG

the caseback is transparent so ofc you don see it

j/k, here's a picture.

[poretl]

it's a fake one. So any inconsistencies with the real one such as the polished case and the see-thru back are ok. When this watch was made at a rep factory the reps weren't as accurate and most importantly they did not have the real one as a reference, which seems to be the case today with most Panerai (at leat the latest).

So what you have is a non-acccurate 241 fako.

[Sweattdogg]

That rotor looks nasty. With all the problems you may want to get something new unless you are wanting to practice a movement swap and have all the tools and knowledge needed. Good luck with it.

[Jurgenk]

Agreed with above, this is a fantasy 44 mm version of the venerable 40 mm 241, there is no 44 mm equivalent model.

I would contact WBK

He has occasionally sold a21j based PR reps

Cheaper to just replace, about $100

Edited January 20, 2012 by Jurgenk

[poretl]

if it was mine it would go right in the trash. That's not an advice as to what you should do, that's just what I'd be doing.

[StormTooper4]

Panerai 241. Is it 40mm? The case on yours doesn't look brushed? Is it?

That is a good search and useful info.

[louky]

Make parts out of it and build a nice homage ,with a new dial perhaps!

[piskopow]

Fixed! The rotor was misaligned and the hands was too tight, and also the hands ware somewhat crooked all good now.

Great watch to work on if your starting out with watches, so easy to see where everything should be

Polished it and it came out great, took the AR off with some polish too. Now i got a great beater absolutely not my last Pam.

Will take a new pic in daylight for you guys soon enough

Thx guys for the great support, makes me warm inside

[Fleet]

Damn, that thing looks way better now.

Had to be an skilled WS who did that! .... (It was me )

Like Pisko said, it was just the rotor that was out of place a bit, and it badly needed a cleaning and buffing. The rotor looks way worse then it is in the first pictures, due to old glue from the plate that should be there with the Panerai text. We cleaned it, and glued the piece back on, so it's shiny and goodlooking now.

Was my first time doing something major like this. We took it all apart, took hands off, cleaned the whole case and took the blue AR off with some Autosol. IMO, the result is great.

Edited January 24, 2012 by Fleet

[Jurgenk]

Wow not bad at all

Congrats and enjoy

These were common on ioffer 5 years ago but I haven't seen them in a long while. You've got a A21j rep with functional power reserve, kind of scarce these days

[frankt]

Movement is a Seagull ST25-30 modular PR model...