piskopow Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Hi all, got an panerai from a friend whose children had dropped it no idea which model it is. also, if some one knows what movement it has? prolly need to swap it. one of the lug screws is stuck and i can't get it out, someone mentioned springbars but its a no go with this bracelet. any ideas? pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 HHHHMMMM its might be a fantasy with that waffle dial.... I cant find it The closest would be the 090 The new one http://www.1-pc8838.com/pn090i01-090i-ssru-a7750-p-11547.html http://vimeo.com/32379096 The old one with the A21j movement http://www.1-pc8838.com/pn09002-bracelet-working-power-reserve-p-399.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poretl Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Panerai 241. Is it 40mm? The case on yours doesn't look brushed? Is it? And from the replica world here it is: http://www.e-valueshop.com/store/officine-panerai/swiss-officine-panerai/pam241-luminor-panerai-regatta-pam241-power-reserve-swiss-automatic/prod_851.html It's with the bracelet too. Edited January 19, 2012 by poretl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piskopow Posted January 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 it's 44mm wo crownguard, also it isn't brushed its polished(not really anymore). also it has see-thru caseback... hmmm, wierd model. anyone know the movement, it really needs a new one. or an substitute thanks so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poretl Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 it's 44mm wo crownguard, also it isn't brushed its polished(not really anymore). also it has see-thru caseback... hmmm, wierd model. anyone know the movement, it really needs a new one. or an substitute thanks so far where is the see-thru caseback? Have pics? What does it say on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikellem Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 it's 44mm wo crownguard, also it isn't brushed its polished(not really anymore). also it has see-thru caseback... hmmm, wierd model. anyone know the movement, it really needs a new one. or an substitute thanks so far You say it's w/o crown guard.. I see a crown guard unless I am missing something here! MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poretl Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) 1. Can you show the caseback? You say it's transparent but I don't see it. 2. In your pics I see C/G. Why are you saying there is not one? 3. The gen pic I posted is the 241. Unfortunately the rep oneI posted is not. The hands are different. So far the only difference I see between yours and the 241 is none unless the caseback is indeed transparent. Can you double check and also post pics or say what it says on it. Edited January 19, 2012 by poretl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piskopow Posted January 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 im sorry, ofc it has an CG, i just meant that the case is 44mm without measuring the CG the caseback is transparent so ofc you don see it j/k, here's a picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poretl Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 it's a fake one. So any inconsistencies with the real one such as the polished case and the see-thru back are ok. When this watch was made at a rep factory the reps weren't as accurate and most importantly they did not have the real one as a reference, which seems to be the case today with most Panerai (at leat the latest). So what you have is a non-acccurate 241 fako. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweattdogg Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 That rotor looks nasty. With all the problems you may want to get something new unless you are wanting to practice a movement swap and have all the tools and knowledge needed. Good luck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgenk Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Agreed with above, this is a fantasy 44 mm version of the venerable 40 mm 241, there is no 44 mm equivalent model. I would contact WBK He has occasionally sold a21j based PR reps Cheaper to just replace, about $100 Edited January 20, 2012 by Jurgenk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poretl Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 if it was mine it would go right in the trash. That's not an advice as to what you should do, that's just what I'd be doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Panerai 241. Is it 40mm? The case on yours doesn't look brushed? Is it? That is a good search and useful info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louky Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Make parts out of it and build a nice homage ,with a new dial perhaps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piskopow Posted January 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Fixed! The rotor was misaligned and the hands was too tight, and also the hands ware somewhat crooked all good now. Great watch to work on if your starting out with watches, so easy to see where everything should be Polished it and it came out great, took the AR off with some polish too. Now i got a great beater absolutely not my last Pam. Will take a new pic in daylight for you guys soon enough Thx guys for the great support, makes me warm inside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleet Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) Damn, that thing looks way better now. Had to be an skilled WS who did that! .... (It was me ) Like Pisko said, it was just the rotor that was out of place a bit, and it badly needed a cleaning and buffing. The rotor looks way worse then it is in the first pictures, due to old glue from the plate that should be there with the Panerai text. We cleaned it, and glued the piece back on, so it's shiny and goodlooking now. Was my first time doing something major like this. We took it all apart, took hands off, cleaned the whole case and took the blue AR off with some Autosol. IMO, the result is great. Edited January 24, 2012 by Fleet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgenk Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Wow not bad at all Congrats and enjoy These were common on ioffer 5 years ago but I haven't seen them in a long while. You've got a A21j rep with functional power reserve, kind of scarce these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankt Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Movement is a Seagull ST25-30 modular PR model... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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