mikellem Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Panerai History and Pam 390 Review In the 1860s, Guido Panerai set up a workshop in Florence, Italy making precision mechanical instruments. The workshops carried on into the 20th century as "Officine Panerai”. By the 1930s the workshops were making a range of wrist-worn instruments for frogmen, compasses, depth gauges and the like. In 1935 Officine Panerai were commissioned by the Italian Navy to construct watches for use underwater; specifically ones that could be read underwater. After some initial prototypes Officine Panerai delivered its first product diving watches in 1938. The prototypes were fitted with Rolex movements and Rolex crowns and case backs. Officine Panerai progressively improved its designs with increased luminosity of numerals, hands and the now famous crown-locking device. Later models were fitted with an Angelus 8 day (marked "8 giorno") movement. The radioactive radium which gave such legibility to the Radiomir models was replaced with the distinctly less toxic compound "Luminor". Things get a bit hazy here, but as far as I can see the equipment-manufacturing end of Officine Panerai drifted out of business after World War II ended. In 1993, Officine Panerai started to reproduce the Luminor and the Mare Nostrum chronograph, basically targeted at the collector's market. These were produced in very limited numbers. In 1997 Officine Panerai was acquired by the Vendôme group. Under the new management the same models were produced, still in small numbers. However in a clever marketing move, a few "unique editions" were produced each year with an intriguing movement or case design. This brings us to the present day. There seems to be no great rush to produce Officine Panerai watches in huge numbers. Collectors are snapping up vintage models and "pre - Vendôme". Panerai has just launched their most exciting range of production watches and unique editions yet. It will be intriguing to see what happens in the next few years, but with a steady hand on the helm, Panerai might well become one of the most collectable brands around whilst still not being seen on every street corner. Panerai PAM 390 What we know so far about the PAM 390 is a Special Edition of 2000 pieces. This comes in a special edition presentation box (larger than the standard issue) together with the famous "Scroll" that accompanies all Panerai Special Editions. They will be only available through boutiques worldwide. As we have seen there are many owners who have been kind enough to share their new acquisition with us. This watch was little known around the Panerai community and as with many of these micro edition sprung out of nowhere to "now here" (the love guru) and blindsided most. However, as many have also noticed there where catalog pictures last year but no mention until they hit the streets. Mr. Bonati played this one very close to the vest and was able to keep the surprise and the lid on this release as the Internet buzz has once again beaten the street with AD's scrambling to find out about this beauty. This is a keeper and is sure to find its place with collectors that like the PAM 249 and many more. The Panerai 390 is a real beauty with the famous "chocolate" dial and aged patina application for the numeral and index application. The watch sports the classic OP1 movement with a highly polished case reminiscent of the PAM 000. In fact, it is very similar except for that gorgeous brown dial and aged patina that gives a more historic feel to it. And yes, gold hands that pop unlike the subdued hands of the PAM 000 which almost blend into the background. OK I won't bore you with any more fluff and take you to the pictures. On a side note, the brown dial is almost impossible to represent in photos without using artistic licensed Photoshop and the pictures here are sans Photoshop, but with the reference of a black dial and a brown 232 you can get a feel for the color. Below are some pics of the Gen 390 (borrowed from a couple of Paneristi reviews). There will be some more comparative pics to come at the end of this review. Also below is a pic of the Pam 000, 390 and the 232. Very similar in my opinion except for the brown Tobacco Dial on the Pam 390. It is stupendous! As noted, these pics have been borrowed from Paneristi. Our photos will follow shortly at the end of the review! The 390 that we are reviewing was purchased form my favorite dealer Andrew, at trustytime.com. I have always found Andrew to be the most knowledgeable and comfortable to deal with. He is always honest and upfront, and handles problems immediately without trying to confuse the buyer like many other dealers do. I have been dealing with Andrew for about 8 years and personally I would not trade dealers ever. Lets take a look and talk about the Pam 390 H Factory Rep. I have one in my hand as I am writing this review. I normally in the past have not liked brown Pam watches. The 390 dial is a gorgeous Tobacco Brown which pops with the antique lume and subdued gold hands. The crown guard is excellent in construction and the fit to the case is extremely well done. The crown guard lever is a little loose, except it snaps closed with a very positive action. Clean and smooth. This is probably one of the best Pam reps I honestly have ever seen. The rep looks Gen!! The fit and finish of this could not be better. All case edges are very clean and smooth. The crystal of course is Sapphire with colorless AR as per the gen. I happened to take a stroll to Rolex in Beverly Hills Ca. The store was out of stock except a visiting customer was wearing one. Looking at the gen and looking at my rep when I came home was scary. I feel this will be one of the super reps of the year. The 390 case back has extremely crisp writing. It has the "pig" or Torpedo Logo engraved on the back case. This a Boutique Watch with 2000 pcs. made in Sept 2011. When the watch first arrived, it sold for about $4500. Right now they are going for $8000 to $9000, and according to Panerai, they are very hard to get. This is one model that is not dropping in price in this poor economy, like other modes have. The watch is lumed with a Patina Superluminova. The watch has correct vintage style gold hands. MOVEMENT: Asian 6497 Manual Handwind Movement, Cortes de Geneve Decoration on Bridges, Correct Shape Dagger Swan Neck Regulator, Highbeat 21600bph. This is one watch which should be in everybody's watch box. You will not regret it. Here is where I purchased my Pam 390: http://yourtrustytime.com/ written by mikellem photos - shot by our famous redwatch asst - asimplefarmer Replica and Genuine photo comparisons to follow. I want to thank Andrew at www.Trustywatchguy.com, for getting this watch to me right before the Chinese New Year. When Andrew promises you something, you can guarantee what he says is going to happen! And that's a fact. Thanks Andrew. I also want to thank redwatch for using an incredible professional photo set and his asst. (another RWG member) asimplefarmer And now on to the pics: Here are some side by side comparison shots: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahboo Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 that did it!....buying one right now!...excellent write-up!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asf Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 SUPER indepth review! I didn't know you had a chance to see the gen recently. Awesome!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Thanks M for this great review and for letting me take those pics!! It was a lot of fun! This is one absolutely amazing PAM!! I hate gold, but the gold hands on this just make the watch in my opinion!!! Also, the lever may be a tad loose, but the "SNAP" feel you get from it when you close it down on the crown is outstanding! Best feeling, out of the box, PAM rep I have ever handled/seen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miagi Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 thats a pretty amazing review! thanks for the read and great photos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relaxman Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Well done guys. Very informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikellem Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 You welcome guys, Thank you! I have never written a review before, so I tried to be as thorough as possible. If I left anything out, I apologize and free free to ask me! Later Today. Short Review on the Pam 243 Noob Factory VS H Factory.. You will enjoy this review. I had both watches in my hand for the 243 review.. Also photos for the 243 review were taken my our wonderful Redwatch, I have the Noob 243 (which is going back to the dealer because of too many problems that need to be addressed. Asimplefarmer had the Pam 243 H for this review.. See you later today for this review.. MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Wonderful write up and thank you for a massive effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Great review M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfovco Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Awesome review and I totally have to say that this is a best and possibly most accurate rep I have ever held in my hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asf Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Man great review! I'm reallllly tempted in ordering one now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikellem Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Man great review! I'm reallllly tempted in ordering one now Hey K, thanks for helping MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikellem Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 SUPER indepth review! I didn't know you had a chance to see the gen recently. Awesome!! I went to Beverly Hills Boutique. They were out of stock, except a customer whom was buying 2 new pams was wearing one. The rep is as close as can be! MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
projectologist Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Not all 2000 pieces have been released yet. Trading on the secondary market is starting to drop to around $7500 dealers and 6500 private. Awesome post... thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfovco Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 I never went to the Beverly Hills Boutique. I work around 15 min drive from there, I should take a longer lunch and finally check it out. I went to Beverly Hills Boutique. They were out of stock, except a customer whom was buying 2 new pams was wearing one. The rep is as close as can be! MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16520b Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 I got the 390 call from Boutique about a month ago, they want me to bundle with another watch on their showroom, i declined. the 390 i saw was 9xx/2000, they are still plenty of chances if you are willing to bundle with another Pam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paneraiguy Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 I got the 390 call from Boutique about a month ago, they want me to bundle with another watch on their showroom, i declined. the 390 i saw was 9xx/2000, they are still plenty of chances if you are willing to bundle with another Pam I really hate it when dealers play that game! Sent from SUNRAY MINOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Fabulous review. What a rep. Should my takeaway be that they got the right overall dial color and finish correct? Is the lettering the same color? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Fabulous review. What a rep. Should my takeaway be that they got the right overall dial color and finish correct? Is the lettering the same color? The color on this one is quite spot on! Hard to photograph, but it looks very, very impressive in person!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfovco Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Now way... imagine you want to buy a car you like, but in order to get it you have to buy another one, ha... That rep is amazing. The Gen is really not worth it and the inflated prices for all base models with $100 movements are a joke. I got the 390 call from Boutique about a month ago, they want me to bundle with another watch on their showroom, i declined. the 390 i saw was 9xx/2000, they are still plenty of chances if you are willing to bundle with another Pam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfovco Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Yes, in person the color of the dial and fonts is looking really good, you can only represent it in a photo if you color correct it on a properly calibrated monitor but even then, all consumer monitors are way incorrect so everyone looking at them will see something different. But like everyone who got one says, in person 390 rep look amazing, I like how the dial changes color from indoor to outdoor. Indoor looks more light black/dark grey almost with a very slight hint of brown color, but if you go outside you get a nice pure light brown. The color on this one is quite spot on! Hard to photograph, but it looks very, very impressive in person!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16520b Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 well if they had a 000 then I would buy both in a heart beat, but they want me to bundle with a 320, i heard too many issues with the p9000 movement, btw, the 390 here from Boutique translates to roughly 4500 usd tax included, much lower than the US Boutique price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfovco Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 That's a bummer they want to do it with 320. If you could get it with 000 at a decent discount then yeah, you could resell it and keep the 390. Yes 320 movements had quite few issues, many people had to wait for 5-6 months to get them back fixed just to watch them break again, a nightmare. In-house movement are so new for Panerai, who knows how they will behave long term. I was bashing on the base prices with 6497, ha... but in the end those movements are extremely reliable and you don't have to send them out to get serviced. well if they had a 000 then I would buy both in a heart beat, but they want me to bundle with a 320, i heard too many issues with the p9000 movement, btw, the 390 here from Boutique translates to roughly 4500 usd tax included, much lower than the US Boutique price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16520b Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 but you know how the Boutiques are, you don't just walk in and say I want a 000 and expect they have it in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbetts1790 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Great review, nice photos! Thanks for sharing; is the rep on the factory strap, or is that aftermarket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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