mastersdom Posted February 9, 2012 Report Posted February 9, 2012 Has anybody bought a genuine 4030 movement or bare 16520 case for their project? How much should I expect to pay?
chefcook Posted February 9, 2012 Report Posted February 9, 2012 4030 movements appear maybe once in a decade. Be prepared to pay in the area of $4500 to $5000. Case without bracelet most probably around $3k (at least that is what a buddy paid). If you want to use a gen case and movement better buy a complete gen watch, will be the cheaper way in the end.
mastersdom Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Posted February 9, 2012 Thanks for the reply ChefCook! Was that $3000 with pushers and bezel or just a bare case?
chefcook Posted February 9, 2012 Report Posted February 9, 2012 case with bezel, back and pushers but without crystal or crown.
Watchmeister Posted February 9, 2012 Report Posted February 9, 2012 Complete waste of time. Go buy a gen for $8k and call it a day. The cheapest movement I have ever seen was $3k or more and complete case was $2500. 1
mastersdom Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Posted February 9, 2012 Thanks Watchmeister. I appreciate the feedback.
mrboombasteke Posted February 16, 2012 Report Posted February 16, 2012 Complete waste of time. Go buy a gen for $8k and call it a day. The cheapest movement I have ever seen was $3k or more and complete case was $2500. A gen for $8K? Where? Do tell...
AsiadeCuba Posted February 16, 2012 Report Posted February 16, 2012 its going to a be two tone for sure. ive seen some for 8400. def possible but a ss one is going to be at least 10k
Watchmeister Posted February 16, 2012 Report Posted February 16, 2012 its going to a be two tone for sure. ive seen some for 8400. def possible but a ss one is going to be at least 10k Wow, news to me. I guess they rose with inflation.
tabularasa415 Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 One of my brothers on W-C has an amazing Franken for sale for less than $5K...
mrboombasteke Posted February 17, 2012 Report Posted February 17, 2012 One of my brothers on W-C has an amazing Franken for sale for less than $5K... Link? PM me if you don't want to disclose publically.
panerai153 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Posted February 18, 2012 Totally agree with watchmeister, I always try (Key word,TRY) to use the 20% rule of thumb when putting together a franken. Probably could revise that to 25% due to price increases,inflation, etc. So, in this case if you were building a franken of a 10k watch, the most you could reasonably spend would be around 2500 USD. Here the movement alone will blow your budget. If you stick pretty close to the Rule, you probably won't get burned too badly when you decide to sell or trade your watch. Worst case you can part it out and get most of your money back. IF you spend 6k building a 10k watch, you better plan on keeping it for a long,long time!!
danielv2000 Posted February 20, 2012 Report Posted February 20, 2012 its going to a be two tone for sure. ive seen some for 8400. def possible but a ss one is going to be at least 10k I think the market prices have dropped slightly. 12-18 months ago, I couldn't find one on TRF for under 10k. Lately, I've seen several closer to 9k-9.5k for SS. I always look as it guides my real hobby here! As for the rule of thumb, 25% is my rule of thumb. There is a franken 16520 for sale somewhere for 4.5k if I recall but that's 50% and it would have to be a grail watch for me to fork 50% into a franken.
HauteHippie Posted February 20, 2012 Report Posted February 20, 2012 The SS 16520 did dip close to $8k at one point. But they've gone back up again. Anyhow, the advice you've received thus far is sound. If gen movement is what you seek, then go to TRF and buy a gen movement with the rest of the watch wrapped around it.
chefcook Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 I planned on building a Daytona Franken but then got a great deal on a genuine 116520 and could not resist buying the gen watch... I have quite a lot of parts gathered during the last few years and in the meantime I have a full set of the parts needed to convert a Zenith El Primero movement for use with genuine hands and conversion to only two crown setting positions. They are for sale here:
watchaddict Posted April 5, 2012 Report Posted April 5, 2012 Link? PM me if you don't want to disclose publically. I have one for sale as well if you are interested.
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