gran Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 Based on the legendary Valjoux calibre, the new Valgranges calibre meets the growing demand for watches in large diameters and maybe more important they have the power to run lots of complications better than an old "7750" ever could There are at least three versions of Valgranges movements made by ETA: ETA A07.111 - hour, minute, second, date ETA A07.161 - hour, minute, second, date, power reserve indication ETA A07.211 - hour, minute, small second, date, chronograph (the standard ETA 7750 is smaller, 13 1/4 lines diameter) A further version will be launched: ETA A07.171 - hour, minute, second, date, 24 hour indication. From Valjoux to Valgranges The reason for offering the new "Valgranges" is the size. It's much bigger than 2824 and 2892 and so it will fit well to big watch cases. The size is 16 1/2 lines / 37,22 mm diameter; the heigth is 7,9 mm. The name is based on the town 'Granges' (in Swiss German: Grenchen) were the former manufacturer Valjoux had it's residence. The size of a Valgranges is 16.5 lignes , while the an ETA-2834) is only 13 Linge. A pretty big difference One French ligne=2.25583 or roughly 2¼ mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 comming soon but in 3-4 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted November 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 I could certainly see one of these in the big IWC pilot but could ETA A07.211 Valgranges be so modified to fit the Iwc Portuguese Watch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 I could certainly see one of these in the big IWC pilot but could ETA A07.211 Valgranges be so modified to fit the Iwc Portuguese Watch? VALGRANGES china eta copy movement coming soon... i am sure it is difficult to rebuild the new VALGRANGES for IWC BIG PILOT.... but it is possible... PROBLEM: it not worth it to build a VALGRANGES modified movement for one watch model... all movements are for many different watch models... asia eta 2836-2, asia 7750, lemania (venus) 1873, HONG KONG tourbillon all movements in much different models... it not worth it to rebuild a movement special for one watch model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt.watch.obsessive Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Let me translate...It costs a lot to make small movements, so, since consumers are for some reason willing to pay big bucks for big watches, we can make more money with a bigger..err...more powerful movement. Just a thought. Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted November 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 VALGRANGES china eta copy movement coming soon... i am sure it is difficult to rebuild the new VALGRANGES for IWC BIG PILOT.... but it is possible... PROBLEM: it not worth it to build a VALGRANGES modified movement for one watch model... all movements are for many different watch models... asia eta 2836-2, asia 7750, lemania (venus) 1873, HONG KONG tourbillon all movements in much different models... it not worth it to rebuild a movement special for one watch model. What about the movement in the current Iwc Portuguese replica? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 What about the movement in the current Iwc Portuguese replica? that is no problem...it is a asia 6498 with different style bridges and engraving. If you modified the bridges on 6497/98 in paneai style or iwc style... that´s the same work. But on VALGRANGES... you must rebuild the stem position (so the power reserve go from 6 o´clock to 3 o´clock position). Also you must build a new movement... it is very easy to build a 7750 without chrono, or a unitas with different style bridges... but very difficult to build a movement with new stem position. but it is possible... in 1-2 years maybe? As first must the chinese build a copy of VALGRANGES... if they has a copy movement they can build it also with different stem positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted November 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 that is no problem...it is a asia 6498 with different style bridges and engraving. If you modified the bridges on 6497/98 in paneai style or iwc style... that´s the same work. But on VALGRANGES... you must rebuild the stem position (so the power reserve go from 6 o´clock to 3 o´clock position). Also you must build a new movement... it is very easy to build a 7750 without chrono, or a unitas with different style bridges... but very difficult to build a movement with new stem position. but it is possible... in 1-2 years maybe? As first must the chinese build a copy of VALGRANGES... if they has a copy movement they can build it also with different stem positions. Thank you for making this clear to me tourbillon1801 BTW I was actually talking about the IWC Portuguese Chronograph model but that is well covered by master The Zigmeister: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=13621&st=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 I would guess (and it is a guess) that we won't see it in reps until gens have the movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chronus Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 I would guess (and it is a guess) that we won't see it in reps until gens have the movement. I have a feeling you're correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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