fidhle007 Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 I have a 2824-powerd Planet Ocean that is in need of some serious help and I've decided that rather then send it out for service perhaps it's time for an upgraded powerplant. I've read that ALL 2892 movements were Elabore grade and above and I've just found a seller on Ebay who's selling Elabore grade 2824 movements as well. The 2824 is about $50 more but it's a direct swap so my question is this: which one would you use and why? Thanks! Brendan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 2824 Direct swap = no hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilFree Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Planet Ocean's used to be fitted with a Omega 2500C which is a modified 2892-A2. If the case dimensions are similar to a genuine I don't see why you can't fit in a better movement. However, I really have no knowledge of reps so don't take my word for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 You should be able to do the swap but make sure the seconds wheel, canonpin and hour wheel are the right heights, i think H4 or H5 are best, if it is a H3 2892 then you may not have space to fit the hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted March 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 My question remains though, if they're both Elabore grade (which all 2892s should be at minimum as I understand it) is the 2892 still a better movement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 I think in this case you need to understand a bit more about the differences in the movements not just the decorative finishes which elabor is just a finish ! Search on google for 2892 and the Little Engine that can" and learn about the mechanics of the movements and then your question will be answered along with many more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilFree Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 I think in this case you need to understand a bit more about the differences in the movements not just the decorative finishes which elabor is just a finish ! Search on google for 2892 and the Little Engine that can" and learn about the mechanics of the movements and then your question will be answered along with many more Elabore is not just a finish. There are actual mechanical difference between the grades. Standard Nivaflex NO, Nivarox 2 Two positions CH, 6H +- 12sec/day +- 30 sec/day 30s Elabore Nivaflex NO, Nivarox 2 Three positions CH, 6H, 9H +- 7 sec/day +- 15 sec/day 20s Top Nivaflex NM, Anachron Five positions CH, FH, 6H, 9H, 3H +- 4 sec/day +- 10 sec/day 15s Chronometer Nivaflex NM, Anachron, same as top, but with chronometer certification from COSC. Five positions and temperature CH, FH, 6H, 9H, 3H COSC COSC COSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Elabore is not just a finish. There are actual mechanical difference between the grades. "Elabore" is French for "elaborate / decorated" Anyone can easily see here that the movements are identical. ETA simply expends more effort to set the timing on one, than the other, by which I mean Elabore is timed in 3 positions, instead of the two positions for the Standard form. Timing in each position takes time and skill to execute. SO what did we learn here? Elabore movements are Standard movements which has been more carefully timed, and decorated with pearlage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilFree Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 "Elabore" is French for "elaborate / decorated" Anyone can easily see here that the movements are identical. ETA simply expends more effort to set the timing on one, than the other, by which I mean Elabore is timed in 3 positions, instead of the two positions for the Standard form. Timing in each position takes time and skill to execute. SO what did we learn here? Elabore movements are Standard movements which has been more carefully timed, and decorated with pearlage. Thanks for that. I stand corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted March 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 So even though it has to pass the more stringent timing standards it's not a better movement internally at all? Wouldn't there be better quality control on an Elabore movement coming from a trusted seller then a "Swiss ETA" coming from a chinese watch factory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted March 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I just reviewed the photos of the Elabore 2824 and it does indeed have the better shock protection (I forget what it's called.) Granted, every 2892 I've seen has this as well but at least it's nice to know it would be a step up from the 2824 I have now while still being a direct swap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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