rcaf2008 Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Good day Rolex and Tudor experts! I wish to draw on your vast knowledge of mechanical timepieces, as there is a 7016/0 Tudor sub in need of a new dial. The perfect dial combination would be a non-date Tudor shield with Mercedes hands as seen in the attached photos. Though I realize a perfect specimen like that only comes with a gen price tag, I would be willing to accept that, depending on the price and if it could be sourced. But I am curious to know if a rep dial could be made to look like that one, with the nice faded vintage lume. So if anyone could let me know where I could find one of these dials, gen or rep, it would be greatly appreciated! Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tucker Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Woof*? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 I bought this gen dial for around 160$ I think on the sales forum last year. They are also often on ebay for a bit more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seacraft Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) Isn't that the wrong dial combo fr a 7016? Early 7016 having the rose dial then transition to the snowflake dial on all of the later 7016 until transition to the 9410? That dial looks like a service replacement or late 94100 (1980ish or later) . Same with the Lollipop sweep Edited April 13, 2012 by Linesiders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Isn't that the wrong dial combo fr a 7016? Early 7016 having the rose dial then transition to the snowflake dial on all of the later 7016 until transition to the 9410? That dial looks like a service replacement or late 94100 (1980ish or later) . Same with the Lollipop sweep I've seen several 7016 and 7928 with this dial layout. it looks like they were parallel with the rose dial. 7016 from 1970 7928 from 1973 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcaf2008 Posted April 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 The photo's I attached were of a gen 1968 7016/0 for sale at the bay. So it looks like I'll have to keep my eyes open on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavidoc Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 The 7016 came in 3 different dial variations. The first found on early 7528 stamped casebacks are of the Rose dial variation and are the exact same as the 7928's. The big thing about the early 7528 caseback 7016 Rose's are the unique case. Found on no other Sub be it Rolex or Tudor. They had a semipointed crown guard and flat and thin lug profile to others. The other unique thing to differentiate the Rose 7016 from the Rose 7928 were the second hand balls. The 7016's has the larger ball. Both the 7928 and the 7016 has a large ball. For the watch to be original it should have the large ball on the second hand. The Rose dialwas followed up by the shield dial (as shown above). The dial was found on some semipointed crownguard sub cases as the Rose dial was but you also see these on the traditional shaped cases of the 5513/1680/7016/7021/9401/9411 variety. This also has the big ball second hand. These were followed in 1970 with the first snowflake dialed 7016's. These are unique as they only say SWISS on them. No T Swiss T. Only the earliest 7016 Snowflakes had this. Shortly after that the normal and well known T SWISS T stamped snowflake 7016 became available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seacraft Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Thanks for the info - the few I have seen with similar dials online were supposed service replacements and I had not seen that particular dial from the factory - very nice. Most everything I have seen & recall was from rose to Snowflake. Recall was the operative word as I just went back and looked there were a few Shield 7016 with that dial - nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 The other unique thing to differentiate the Rose 7016 from the Rose 7928 were the second hand balls. The 7016's has the larger ball. For the watch to be original it should have the large ball on the second hand. I think lollipop seconds hands appeared on early versions of both the 7016/1 & 7928. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick1972 Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 rcaf, what serial is your 7016? I have different gen dials for it. I think lollipop seconds hands appeared on early versions of both the 7016/1 & 7928. You are right gilt and silver ones. There is also a difference in size between the lollipop 7928, 7016 hand. The lollipop second hand from the 7016 is a little bit shorter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcaf2008 Posted April 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 You all certainly know what your talking about.. But does anyone know where I can find one?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick1972 Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 You all certainly know what your talking about.. But does anyone know where I can find one?? Read the post above one more time, I have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavidoc Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 I think lollipop seconds hands appeared on early versions of both the 7016/1 & 7928. That's right Freddy. I did forget they could be found on the 7928's. As Nick said, they were available in gilt as well. Later replacements are small ball. Also the first warning sign IMO of a rep 7016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcaf2008 Posted April 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Would you be able to post some pics of your dials Nick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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