end72 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Hello Paneristi, I just want to confirm if Genuine Paneria PAM187 ETA 6497-1 lowbeat 18,000 VPH used Novodiac shock absorber or Novodiac shock spring . I know that PAM187 ETA 6497-2 uses the incabloc with swan neck because this is hi beat 21,600 vph. Any expert advise? Edited April 2, 2014 by end72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugop Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Panerai 187 uses a 7750 automatic chrono movement. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
end72 Posted April 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) I believed that is PAM087 Paneria luminor OP6541 case number uses valjoux 7750 movement. PAM187 uses 6497-1 low beat 18000 VPH and 6497-2 hi beat Edited April 3, 2014 by end72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugop Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 This is my 187 with Asian 7750. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
end72 Posted April 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) hello there yes you are right Im sorry I mean PAM183 Edited April 3, 2014 by end72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugop Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) 183 should be an OP XI 6497-2 running 21,600 and yes incablock Not sure of models that used the 6497-1 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Edited April 3, 2014 by hugop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
end72 Posted April 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 I read a thread from peepshow about the 6497-1 movement in Paneria that "needle regulator plus Novodiac shock protection plus straight spokes on the balance wheel = Swiss". I hope peepshow can chime in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogladio Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 6497-1 were used in pre-V models - or at least those with good ears so say... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceejay Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 6497 Novodiac, 6497-1 Incabloc, 6497-2 Incabloc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lf Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 ETA6497-1 were only used in PAM 00318 Pre-Vendome watches use UT 6497 Panerai 183 uses an OPXI caliber based on ETA6497-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
end72 Posted April 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Thanks for your post guys but I believed PAM 183 comes on two variants 6497-1 low beat 18000 VPH and 6497-2 Hi beat 21600 VPH. Any additional input guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
projectologist Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) Thanks for your post guys but I believed PAM 183 comes on two variants 6497-1 low beat 18000 VPH and 6497-2 Hi beat 21600 VPH. Any additional input guys? I have no idea where you got your information, but starting with the addition of the 183 to the OP lineup in 2004, OP has always used the ETA6497-2 movement (as member w0lf stated above). Google "Panerai 183g" > Images, look at the movement pics, and you will have your answer. Edited April 11, 2014 by projectologist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inertiadrifter Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 Wolf and projectologist spoke Enough said Can't get any better than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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