F.Castro Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 I have ruined around 3brand new 1675 inserts and 3sub inserts I have tested blech, they never blech Have any of you tested? If so, pics pleas. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolex_panelai Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 i think gen inserts only bleach after 30 years of 'honest' use, i. e. take a long holiday with a lot of sun, salt-water and beer. at least i never succeeded with several tries, not even with salt acid, only with 'mechanical' impact, but this you can easily see at the edges. Gesendet von meinem iPad mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.Castro Posted June 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 i think gen inserts only bleach after 30 years of 'honest' use, i. e. take a long holiday with a lot of sun, salt-water and beer. at least i never succeeded with several tries, not even with salt acid, only with 'mechanical' impact, but this you can easily see at the edges. Gesendet von meinem iPad mit Tapatalk Hahah, good one mate! And i think you are right! And the bigest problem is the edges just like you said. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 The insert from my 1968 Sub is slightly faded to a dark slate grey-blue, and it's had a ton of hard outdoors use, tons of salt water, tons of abuse. The insert on my 1971 Sea-dweller isn't faded a bit, and it's been on hundreds of dives all over the world. These things are tough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolex_panelai Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 ... but so nice the black inserts are 'aftermarket' i treated with the bleach you use for clothes etc., 2nd from the right you see the ugly grind down edges from mechanical force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.Castro Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Well, god d*mn, to him that gives up! I think i did it 30min bleach on a brand new full black insert! Im popping it in later today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.Castro Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 One more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolex_panelai Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 gen insert? Gesendet von meinem iPad mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.Castro Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Yepp!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.Castro Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 And i just bought two black fatfonts that i will also bleach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolex_panelai Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 looks good Gesendet von meinem iPad mit Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.Castro Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam007 Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 I found through experience and looking at many different inserts, that for the most part, Naturally faded inserts still retain their original luster and the fading is uniform and even. Artificially faded inserts are for the most part, dull, lacking in luster and have splotchy or uneven fading (fading in the inner most or outermost) I'm sure there are people out there who are really really good at fading inserts that can even trick the experts. Naturally faded Fat Font Gen insert: Artificially faded Fat Font Gen Insert: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.Castro Posted June 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) Artificiall faded Edited June 30, 2014 by F.Castro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolex_panelai Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 fully agree, naturally faded inserts still remain something special, having a special look difficult to simulate. with black inserts, I think you can get very close to this, as shown above. coming to pepsi, it becomes a little more challenging and obvious, depending how the colours turn... lolex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Here's a thought I have had for a while. Please correct me if I am wrong about this theory. Let's say a watch is from 1968 and the owner wears it regularly. Some days he will be out in the sun all day long, but during this time the watch will be moving and not always in the direct, full sun. That means your arm is also exposed just sitting there. Other days it will be shady, or the owner could be inside and it won't be exposed to sun at all. So over the course of 46 years, how many actual hours of full on, direct blazing/torching sun has this insert actually had? I bet not many. Most of the exposure is probably angled. What if you take the same insert, but put it on a wooden block or something that won't blow away, and place it out on your deck? Now the insert will be fully exposed, and directly exposed for continuous sun 12 hours a day or whatever the case may be, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. My guess is you can achieve more fading over the course of 12 months using nonstop direct exposure than you can over decades of occasional, indirect exposure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam007 Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Artificiall faded I Actually like it . Good Job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.Castro Posted July 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Here's a thought I have had for a while. Please correct me if I am wrong about this theory. Let's say a watch is from 1968 and the owner wears it regularly. Some days he will be out in the sun all day long, but during this time the watch will be moving and not always in the direct, full sun. That means your arm is also exposed just sitting there. Other days it will be shady, or the owner could be inside and it won't be exposed to sun at all. So over the course of 46 years, how many actual hours of full on, direct blazing/torching sun has this insert actually had? I bet not many. Most of the exposure is probably angled. What if you take the same insert, but put it on a wooden block or something that won't blow away, and place it out on your deck? Now the insert will be fully exposed, and directly exposed for continuous sun 12 hours a day or whatever the case may be, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. My guess is you can achieve more fading over the course of 12 months using nonstop direct exposure than you can over decades of occasional, indirect exposure. Yes you are correct, if you let it hang out 365days in all kind of weather it will fade faster. Best place to fade a insert normaly would be if you lived near the sea, so the salty winds and sun could get the best of it. I Actually like it . Good Job Me to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolex_panelai Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 this theory may clarify, why faded inserts are so much popular faded = you can spend your time at the sunny seaside, the sun, water, a boat => not faded = you have to sit at a desk in the shadow, you have to work => Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 this theory may clarify, why faded inserts are so much popular faded = you can spend your time at the sunny seaside, the sun, water, a boat => not faded = you have to sit at a desk in the shadow, you have to work => LOL, good one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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