JBoy Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 For those that know about Angelus movements... Does anyone know - just by looking at this picture - if it will have a suitable movement in it? (for a watch)... THANKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Usually the desk clocks are winded from the back with a key hence they are not suitable for wristwatches.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Looks like this is wound and set via crown and the alarm is wound via the back key... Yeah..that's true.. I missed the huge big crown on the left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBoy Posted December 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 It's a travel alarm clock - not a desk clock. Trying to find out the size of the casing (or the rear metal casing that holds the movement). just wondering if anyone recognizes it right off as a viable clock to salvage the movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cucumber_Jones Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 I am 99% sure that it is NOT suitable. There are tells on all these clocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingrick Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Here is a link to rivers post, he attempted a while ago to build a franken PAM203 with an Angelus 8-days taken from a similar clofck. I have not read the whole thread, but there a allot of comments about the different angelus 8 days movements... Hope it helps... http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=8467&hl= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 (edited) the seller of this angelus clock is from our RWG ask him that you are a RWG member and he will let you know which type of movement is it. sorry i can´t told you it is not my item and i don´t get any informations about other sellers items i have 3x stem winder angelus240 and 4x key winder angelus240 my watchsmith cleaned all movements and do some work. Here some old pics before service... new pics after revision comming soon. BTW, i look for more angelus240... please PM me Edited December 12, 2006 by tourbillon1801 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cucumber_Jones Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Hey Tourb - I would have left the alarm winding gear on it - looks odd when it is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcsherry Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Tourb, if you've got so many why do you need more?! Sounds like you've got some interesting projects in the pipeline. JBoy, as the long green vegetable has already pointed out, there are tell tale signs on these clocks - be patient and do your research, without dimensions you can tell from the front or back what movement is inside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBoy Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Tourb, if you've got so many why do you need more?! Sounds like you've got some interesting projects in the pipeline. JBoy, as the long green vegetable has already pointed out, there are tell tale signs on these clocks - be patient and do your research, without dimensions you can tell from the front or back what movement is inside! Well - I've asked several people and read everything I could find on Angelus movements and clocks and such - and no one is talking. Everyone covering their own ass. We've got guys here with 4 or more movements - and they still won't give clues to anyone on how to find the right one. But I think I've found a movement now. From someone who actually knows what they are doing and is willing to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 We've got guys here with 4 or more movements - and they still won't give clues to anyone on how to find the right one. That's how they have lots of them and the rest of us still have none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 That's how they have lots of them and the rest of us still have none. Yeah.. that's true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Tourb, if you've got so many why do you need more?! Sounds like you've got some interesting projects in the pipeline. JBoy, as the long green vegetable has already pointed out, there are tell tale signs on these clocks - be patient and do your research, without dimensions you can tell from the front or back what movement is inside! hey friend you know i will get ALL MOVEMENTS WORLDWIDE also i need yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Well - I've asked several people and read everything I could find on Angelus movements and clocks and such - and no one is talking. Everyone covering their own ass. We've got guys here with 4 or more movements - and they still won't give clues to anyone on how to find the right one. But I think I've found a movement now. From someone who actually knows what they are doing and is willing to help. dear Jboy i will understand your opinion... but do you know the worth of this movement? Anybody will get this movements for free... ask Enzo... he make you a good price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cucumber_Jones Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 (edited) The reality is those of us who have an Angelus have had to buy an incorrect clock or two to learn what to look for. This is the price of entry into this market. Also I am much more inclined to help someone I know and who has been here for a while when it comes to VERY hard to find items. Edited December 13, 2006 by Cucumber_Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBoy Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 The reality is those of us who have an Angelus have had to buy an incorrect clock or two to learn what to look for. This is the price of entry into this market. Also I am much more inclined to help someone I know and who has been here for a while when it comes to VERY hard to find items. Sorry - but that's just ignorant and elitist. I may not have been here long (as only stumbled across THIS website by mistake) but I can guarantee you I've been a part of the legitimate Panerai world for longer than most people on ANY board. I'll probably never actually get to buy an Angelus movement - but I want to learn more about them. Thank goodness there are people out there willing to help and who are not so selfish as some people I've come across here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Sorry - but that's just ignorant and elitist. I may not have been here long (as only stumbled across THIS website by mistake) but I can guarantee you I've been a part of the legitimate Panerai world for longer than most people on ANY board. I'll probably never actually get to buy an Angelus movement - but I want to learn more about them. Thank goodness there are people out there willing to help and who are not so selfish as some people I've come across here. I don't think cucumber_jones represents the majority of this forum, and I think it is a bit harsh because there are people in this forum that they gave SO MUCH just because they care about RWG and our community. Don't make general assumption because of the reply of a member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBoy Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I don't think cucumber_jones represents the majority of this forum, and I think it is a bit harsh because there are people in this forum that they gave SO MUCH just because they care about RWG and our community. Don't make general assumption because of the reply of a member. Agreed. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reelamore Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 hey friend you know i will get ALL MOVEMENTS WORLDWIDE also i need yours @ tourbillon1801..Not ALL of them...some do slip through your radar.. @jboy that clock is wrong..like CJ says...and we have to kiss lots of frogs to get these and lose some money. Sometimes these are correct but don't work or missing stems etc..so its a toss up. You need a few movements to make one rep to cover the mistakes/problems..there are no parts available for these anywhere. As far as the Trade secret stuff..its nothing against you as you will figure it out anyway if you keep looking. The issue is if every member of all 3 boards and the Paneristi "knew" what to look for..we would all bid against each other and the price would be astronomical..its getting that way now.. So we want to help you , but the public posting of info is not a great idea.. Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 @ tourbillon1801..Not ALL of them...some do slip through your radar.. @jboy that clock is wrong..like CJ says...and we have to kiss lots of frogs to get these and lose some money. Sometimes these are correct but don't work or missing stems etc..so its a toss up. You need a few movements to make one rep to cover the mistakes/problems..there are no parts available for these anywhere. As far as the Trade secret stuff..its nothing against you as you will figure it out anyway if you keep looking. The issue is if every member of all 3 boards and the Paneristi "knew" what to look for..we would all bid against each other and the price would be astronomical..its getting that way now.. So we want to help you , but the public posting of info is not a great idea.. Good Luck dear friend great pics... CONGRATULATE but why you have cleaned the movements so much? It looks like new? i told my watchmaker, that he don´t do full revision. Only a simple cleaning... this movements are historic movements and it is better that they looks old??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cucumber_Jones Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 (edited) Jboy give me a f*cking break. I am happy to help you find the best sub I am happy to answer 99% of all questions that I am asked all day long. All I said is that there are many of us still looking for these movements and that is why I am not providing any hints. I noted that I dont even know you and that I would be a little more inclined to provide someone who I actualy know with some tips to find the most sought after movement out there. There is nothing f*cking elitist about that at all. I dont know you that is all. If a member that I know PM'd me asking for hints I might be more inclined to give him a hand as I know him and I know what he has contributed here. By the way - I did f*cking help you by telling you that the 1st movement you showed was no good and then I told you the clock that you showed was no good. So what the [censored]ing hell do you mean that I am elitist and ignorant. That will teach me for so promptly answering your questions on three replica boards. Based on the fact that I told yo not to buy two bad clocks I think I saved you a bunch of money - you are welcome for that. Edited December 13, 2006 by Cucumber_Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Well - I've asked several people and read everything I could find on Angelus movements and clocks and such - and no one is talking. Everyone covering their own ass. We've got guys here with 4 or more movements - and they still won't give clues to anyone on how to find the right one. But I think I've found a movement now. From someone who actually knows what they are doing and is willing to help. Yeah, guess why I called a certain someone a big arrogant [censored] via PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 @jboy that clock is wrong..like CJ says...and we have to kiss lots of frogs to get these and lose some money. Sometimes these are correct but don't work or missing stems etc..so its a toss up. You need a few movements to make one rep to cover the mistakes/problems..there are no parts available for these anywhere. I do know a local watchmaker that can repair ANY damage on a watch, because he makes watches himself and has all the equipment. If you have a broken one, or one thats missing a stem, I'd buy it, as long as it has the correct size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 (edited) I do know a local watchmaker that can repair ANY damage on a watch, because he makes watches himself and has all the equipment. If you have a broken one, or one thats missing a stem, I'd buy it, as long as it has the correct size Slay dear friend i am not arrogant please understand my opnion. I sought more than 1 year for this movements and spend 1-2 hours EVERY [censored]ING day to find this movements.... do you know how much work is in my movements? and why i should sell it anyone???? Some guys thinks i am santa claus???? Edited December 13, 2006 by tourbillon1801 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I did not say you were arrogant. I did not say you were santa clause. I did not say you HAD to sell the movements. I did not say you HAD to sell the movements for an unreasonable price. And I did also not call Cucumber an [censored]. You guys need to read what I write and not put words in my mouth that I never used! Although, if I may add, I do not see why someone has 4 movements and wants even more. But fortunately, there are still members here who do not want to own the whole world and are very helpful, Marco for example. Thanks again Marco If I may also add, I understand why Cucumber maybe does not tell someone who is new and whom he does not know _everything_. What I dislike is when people try to benefit as much as possible community but when they discover that they might not be able to own 27 angelus movements, they play the "everyone for himself" game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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