Beachcomber Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 I have the opportunity to buy one from a member on another forum and he says these are copy of a gen 5513 case that he purchased and copied exactly. Any comments you have on this case is much appreciated. Thank you. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProMariner Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 this is an HR case mate ! I have one and the quality of it isn't very good actually, especially the bezel assembly which is made of very cheap material, and it is not gen specs, the Crystal also isn't gen specs, the OD isn't same as gen. The good thing about this case is the fact that it can take a gen ROLEX caliber inside, And the insert is very nice but the pearl is too big and not very accurate HR stated the crown of the case as a 7030 but it is actually a 702 one, the long coronet engraved on the crown doesn't look bad though. The negative point about it is the small crown guards, the whole bezel assembly with the Crystal And the engravings of the case if it came with engravings. PS: HR is Helena Rou a seller on eBay, a lot of member uses her cases on the homage forum for her big crown cases, milsub or 5513/ Tudor snow flake. Hope this help ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProMariner Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Here are some pictures of the cases when HR engraves it: Here is the beZel assembly of it, quiet poor : Hr told me that her crown is a 703 but actually it is a 702, I have tried to fit it in a gen 703 tube and it didn't then I realized that the thread of her crown, comes from the top to the bottom of the crown, like the 702 crowns and she told me that it fit her gen 5513 1969 tube, which is possible because the 5513 was launched with a 702 crown and tube then has been replaced by the 703 by RSC when you have your gen watch services: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachcomber Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Wow, thanks for that information, I was thinking the CGs looked a little off but wasn't sure and that bezel assembly is really poor. I'm not thinking of putting a gen movement in it so that's really irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. The case is sterile without engravings. I appreciate this as you just saved me a sizable amount as the seller wanted about $400 for it. Wow, I guess he saw me coming. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProMariner Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Wow, thanks for that information, I was thinking the CGs looked a little off but wasn't sure and that bezel assembly is really poor. I'm not thinking of putting a gen movement in it so that's really irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. The case is sterile without engravings. I appreciate this as you just saved me a sizable amount as the seller wanted about $400 for it. Wow, I guess he saw me coming. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 400USD ? Lol HR sells it for like 200USD on eBay shipped you just have to ask her for the "branded logo version" It looks like someone wanted to make some extra money with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProMariner Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Wow, thanks for that information, I was thinking the CGs looked a little off but wasn't sure and that bezel assembly is really poor. I'm not thinking of putting a gen movement in it so that's really irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. The case is sterile without engravings. I appreciate this as you just saved me a sizable amount as the seller wanted about $400 for it. Wow, I guess he saw me coming. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=321607985115 200USD from HR, just ask her for the branded version if you want the ROLEX logo on the crown and with the engravings .. She also offer the 5517 case set for milsub with fixed bars and 60 minutes graduated bezel insert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachcomber Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 un-[censored]-believable, once again, thanks for the info, he was also trying to sell me a dial he said he made for a good chunk of change as well. I can't believe some people. He said it was a MK case as well, I guess so I couldn't look it up and find out the real price. This wonderful human being is on Repgeek. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProMariner Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 un-[censored]-believable, once again, thanks for the info, he was also trying to sell me a dial he said he made for a good chunk of change as well. I can't believe some people. He said it was a MK case as well, I guess so I couldn't look it up and find out the real price. This wonderful human being is on Repgeek. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk You are welcome my friend I am glad I helped you ! This is why this place is meant for ! By the way HR is also able to make you a ROLEX dial aged with lume with the hands and trust me they are pretty damn good !! Better than any rep dial that TD 's offer or yuki offer. Actually the only good dials I have seen are the one from Whoopy and HR. Just ask her she will help you for your build ! I am also on RepGeek, I will PM you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProMariner Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) And by the way ? Who the hell is MK ? Lol Michael Kors Edited December 28, 2014 by ingelero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachcomber Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 And by the way ? Who the hell is MK ? Lol Michael Kors I think it was made up so I would think it was this great obscure brand impossible to find. Lol Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProMariner Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 I think it was made up so I would think it was this great obscure brand impossible to find. Lol Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Lol ok so this explains everything .. He also invented the "source" of the case set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Hmmm, I wonder if it is even a REAL imitation replica case!!?? Now, the sterile HR case-base looks to be a good candidate for inner engraving. Too bad they used laser engraving on their "signed" version... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProMariner Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Hmmm, I wonder if it is even a REAL imitation replica case!!?? Now, the sterile HR case-base looks to be a good candidate for inner engraving. Too bad they used laser engraving on their "signed" version... As you know there is not such an 1:1 rep case especially at this price .. The best alternative to gen is phong 5513 case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Helenarou's web site http://www.helenarou.com/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProMariner Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Helenarou's web site http://www.helenarou.com/index.html +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachcomber Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Helenarou's web site http://www.helenarou.com/index.html Thanks for the link Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droptopman Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 No expert but I agree the HR dials are pretty nice. My HR 6538 which is on the way for a dome plexi and new insert which takes some modding to make work but you can see the dial is decent for printed gilt. Sent from my droptop using telepathy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoopy12 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 This is actually pretty funny Helenarou goes by MK. I have designed several of his dials (6538, 6200). If you want to re-read my email, I never said that it was an exact copy of the gen 5513 case. I said "he purchased a gen 5513 case when producing his cases". I designed several of his dials for him in preparation for his case production, this is how I know. I purchased this case a while ago and paid almost $400 including shipping.. If he sells them on eBay for less than that, then clearly I got a bad deal. - Whoop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachcomber Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 I'll save you the trouble, here's the email, I apologize but I assumed you meant that it was an exact copy since you stated that he bought a gen 5513 and produced cases from that. Thank goodness I asked the question here and never mentioned your name, I only wanted more information on the accuracy of the case since I had no idea. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoopy12 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 No worries S. RWG is definitely the forum to ask all vintage Rolex-related questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachcomber Posted December 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Thanks Craig. I meant no offense, just wanted more info before I bought it. I'm sorry it you paid that much for the case that's just terrible. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoopy12 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 No harm no foul S! As for the case overpaying: you win some you lose some :0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Does the Helenarou case have the gen style crystal mount using the retainer, or is it a glue-in, shortened (sanded down) crystal? Is the rehaut that deep as pictured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoopy12 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 It has a steel crystal retention ring yep. Not sure how deep in mm the rehaut is though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Thank you! If it uses the gen style crystal mount I might try one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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