Trouble with an Ebay Sale - PAM111

[concealed]

Hey Guys,

 

I recently sold an E Series PAM 111 that I am certain is authentic.  The buyer did not like the scratches that were on the crystal (which in fairness to him, I didn't overtly disclose, but I thought they were consistent with age and wear), so he took it to a local shop in a mall in Manila that is claiming that the item is not authentic.  Mind you, this is not a large operation, it is a very small kiosk in a mall, not an authorized dealer by any means.  

 

Here is the eBay listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Panerai-PAM00111-111-Engraved-Grafitti-Mvt-2002-Series-E-Painted-Dial-RARE-/282377495955?rd=1  Do any of you think that this is actually fake?  Had it for a few years, never had a problem, has a matching certificate and all correct period E Series details (smaller CG, swan neck regulator, painted dial)...

 

I have advised him to take it the local repair shop affiliated with Lucerne (a large dealer) http://lucerneluxe.com/watch-care-service/ and am waiting to hear back.

 

Such a drag for me!  Any advice would be helpful.  Thanks gentlemen. 

[Propofol]

I'm no Panny expert
But an eBay one maybe more

In any case, ask for many pictures etc, keep tracks of all mails exchanges with this guy, and eventually if he manages to get a certificate etc from the local dealer (which he won't have), Ppal could only ask him to ship it back to you.


That is the only way for him to force Ppal to accept to reverse the transaction in matter of NADI claim.
In this eventuality, please videorecord the reopening of the package when you receive it, in front of postal employee, to prevent you from any fraud attempt (empty package, brick shipped, fake watch instead)
Cheers

[Natas78]

Looks legit to me, be prepared to get it shipped back however as paypal will automatically choose the side of the buyer... been there done that...


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[concealed]

That's my fear.  Thanks gentlemen.  I really hope the buyer is rational, I have already offered him a partial refund to avoid the hassle and done the legwork to find the authorized repair shop/AD in his hometown.  

[gmg_3]

I'd keep him away from a paypal dispute at all cost.

 

Offer partial refund or to get it polished..

 

If all else fails accept a return / fund.

 

Hopefully he doesn't mail you a Pam 111 v3 back!

 

 

[concealed]

That's my greatest fear.  He seems reasonable, but is obviously [censored] because the local shop told him it was not original.  Granted it, it is not on the original strap and it is a rare older model (painted sausage dial, slimmer crownguard, etc), but come on, it has the correct swan neck regulator, matching serial number / authenticity card, etc.  Just frustrating!

[gmg_3]

exchange numbers and nip this in the bud ASAP.

 

explain what a good deal he got and you would gladly sell to someone else when he returns.

 

 

[herculers]

be very very carefull been there done that lost a heap my then girlfriend walked out on me cursing looser

[macarone]

I've purchased many items from this eBay seller. Never once received any item that I had to judge its authenticity. Hope you work it out between each other.


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